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<CubicEarth> Would there be any value in having different plug-in modules available to handle the P2P side of a node, which could each be tailored to disguise the traffic as a different protocol? ie - video traffic, or irc, image data, vpn, etc?
<CubicEarth> There would obviously need to be 'bride nodes' that had more than one module going at once :)
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<yanmaani> CubicEarth: look into obfs4 for Tor
<yanmaani> similar idea
<CubicEarth> yeah, that's more or less what I was imagining :)
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<fluffypony> CubicEarth: or, more specifically, look at Tor pluggable transports
<fluffypony> but since you can go Bitcoin node -> Tor -> pluggable transports you don't really need much more than that
<sipa> i think there may be value in having alternate transports that are not tor
<sipa> as tor connections are generally easily DoS'ed (unless you connect to know onion addresses)
<sipa> i guess tor transport + known onion address is how you'd do it, and probably better than anything ad-hoc built for bitcoin
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<yanmaani> ^
<yanmaani> Bitcoin already natively supports onions
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<sipa> i think things like services that broadcasts headers or blocks that aren't quite full bidirectional p2p connections may be another matter
<sipa> say fetching block headers over DNS
<sipa> or blockstream satellite, which arguably is already a separate transport (implemented using a patched bitcoin core i believe)
<yanmaani> Couldn't you just run another node on localhost?
<sipa> you mean the satellite-patched one? sure
<sipa> or on another machine you trust and have connectivity to
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