#bitcoin-wizards on 2020-11-13 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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06:08 <andytoshi> queip: "bringing them back" would be a change in the consensus rules, so it would require a ton of coordination

06:09 <andytoshi> you're right though that somebody could propose to pull the elements code back into bitcoin and from a technical PoV it'd be very straightforward

06:13 <andytoshi> kanzure: holy shit

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06:31 <remaeus> wow

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11:11 <Blackwolfsa4> Hi I have a quick question regarding bulletproofs, pedersin commitments and MW.

11:11 <Blackwolfsa4> In MW you have usually have a (v.H + k.G) with a bulletproof constructed from v and k. And k being both private.

11:11 <Blackwolfsa4> Is it still secure if you have (v.H + k.G + j.G) with j being a public variable?

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14:27 <andytoshi> yes

14:28 <andytoshi> this is always the case, given any k you can publish a uniformly random j and say "my real secret is k' = k - j"

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14:34 <andytoshi> and obvs publishing j does not affect the secrecy of anything

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15:27 <Blackwolfsa4> awesome thanks

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