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<michaelfolkson> Might be missing something basic but when the bech32m draft BIP says "This does not affect existing uses of witness version 0 BIP173 addresses due to their restriction to two specific lengths"
<michaelfolkson> Could you not take a P2WPKH bech32 (42 characters) and insert 20 q characters to get a P2WSH bech32 (62 characters)?
<michaelfolkson> I guess it would look weird visually to have 20 q characters
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<michaelfolkson> I'm presuming the plan is that SegWit v1 addresses will also start bc1. Could change the separator so it is bc2 but 2 is in the bech32 character set
<pinheadmz> michaelfolkson well segwit v1 addresses will have a "p" after the separator instead of a "q"
<pinheadmz> I was reading 173 trying to answer your first question, and I think I found a typo:
<michaelfolkson> Ah gotcha the witness version actually is already in the bech32 address
<michaelfolkson> Thanks, missed that
<pinheadmz> michaelfolkson did you figure out if v0 addresses are vulnerable to adding 20 q's ?
<michaelfolkson> pinheadmz: Nope not yet
<michaelfolkson> In theory you could also delete 20 qs (if there were 20 qs) but probability of that is ~0
<pinheadmz> heh a script hash address where the hash of the script ends in like 12 0's... could be a valid address but doubtful there is a script that matches
<pinheadmz> also the math is a little funny because each character represents 5 bits
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<pinheadmz> so 20 q's is 100 bits which is 12.5 bytes - so that cant be valid right?
<pinheadmz> oh bip173 says pad with zeros if needed never mind
<pinheadmz> makes sense, 20 byte P2WPKH + 12 bytes ~= 32 byte P2WSH
<pinheadmz> so the last 4 `0` bits are ignored
<michaelfolkson> Right
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<michaelfolkson> Applying bech32m to existing SegWit v0 would presumably make it confusing for wallets, that's the only reason for not doing that right?
<michaelfolkson> You could have bech32 SegWit v0 and bech32m SegWit v0 addresses in theory
<michaelfolkson> Would run the two checksum algorithms on the SegWit v0 address to work out if it is a valid SegWit v0 bech32 or a valid SegWit v0 bech32m
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<michaelfolkson> On the 20 q character question you could just have the checksum reject an address with 20 q's in it
<michaelfolkson> Presumably no addresses on the blockchain contain 20 q's. But if you did that a future address with 20 q's could cause a blockchain split? Lol I don't know
<michaelfolkson> The checksum isn't a consensus rule so that's nonsense, ignore me
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<kewde> Would getting an SSH shell through an exposed unauthenticated bitcoind rpc api be something worth reporting?
<kewde> Some people are crazy enough to expose the bitcoind rpc api for public usage, thinking that it's safe if there's no wallets attached to it..
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<roconnor> michaelfolkson: Bech32 isn't designed to protect against 20 character edits.
<roconnor> Beyond the fact that any given random address has a one in a billion chance of being valid.
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<nickler> kewde: people are crazy. And clightning and lnd for example require rpc api access. You certainly don't want to give them more capabilities than accessing whitelisted rpc commands. So it's worth reporting
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