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<Who> @tmoore sup
<Who> :(
<Who> tmoore: there
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<aspiers> can anyone explain how to debug what is requiring celluloid in this failure? https://gist.github.com/aspiers/19775b0f76e2b93b9a34
<aspiers> when bundle fails, it doesn't leave behind a Gemfile.lock so I can't see the dependency tree it was working from
<kgrz> Use ruby >= 1.9.2, run bundle :)
<kgrz> @aspiers ^
<aspiers> kgrz: that really doesn't help. I'm already using 1.9.3 and 2.0.0, but I'm trying to get my tests running on 1.8.7 too which is our target platform
<aspiers> and believe it or not, there are perfectly good reasons for targeting 1.8.7
<kgrz> No, I meant, check the Gemfile.lock output in 1.9.2 and then you can know which gem is loading celluloid
<kgrz> @aspiers ^
<aspiers> ahh
<aspiers> except that's a different dependency tree so it might help but there's no guarantee
<aspiers> I'll try though
<aspiers> looks like guard -> listen -> celluloid
<aspiers> also chefspec >= 3 requires fauxhai which requires Ruby >= 1.9, but bundler fails to figure out that it should use chefspec 2
<aspiers> I guess bundler needs to use satsolver to resolve its dependencies
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<Who> aspiers: hey there
<Who> I hope I can answered your questions
<Who> have you worked on the SAT solver as well?
<aspiers> Who: hi :)
<Who> hey
<aspiers> Who: no but some of my colleagues wrote libsatsolver
<Who> great
<Who> do they hang out on freenode?
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<aspiers> Who: thanks very much for your replies
<aspiers> Who: not sure but I can find out
<Who> When I started writing the resolver I didn't know much of CS behind it but then I learned it by reading AI modern approach and then fixed other bottlenecks using profile and fix approach
<Who> so I would be glad to talk with someone who knows more about these stuff :)
<aspiers> Who: apparently he is not on IRC :-/
<Who> ah
<Who> well he is code is out there
<Who> and its really readable
<Who> I will see if he has done something interesting
<aspiers> you could ask on zypp-devel@opensuse.org maybe
<Who> which I could use :)
<aspiers> actually, you should also try the #zypp channel
<Who> sure
<Who> so about your latest comment
<Who> so Bundler does something interesting
<Who> we don't actually install anything while resolving
<Who> we resolve things first and then we return a list
<Who> then we install things one by one
<Who> while we can still keep the tree information
<Who> but the gem installation is done by Rubygems
<Who> so that debug message has to wait till we work on merger with Rubygems
<Who> Though I shouldn't be too quick to dismiss anything, I am just saying this from top of my head
<Who> but basically it will be difficult
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<Who> since we're piggybacking on Rubygems for installation
<Who> we can do something like write the Gemflie.lock.broken like you said on exception
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<derek_> Sass devs advise against using CodeKit as it doesn't run it's Sass/Compass through Bundler. Does CodeKit not manage dependencies properly? I'm confused here.
<derek_> Also can't really find anyone else talking about this, so I feel like I'm missing something...
<derek_> (or all the talking happened 2 years ago)
<derek_> breakpoint install docs, for example, https://github.com/Team-Sass/breakpoint/wiki/Installation
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