04:56 <CodeGnome_> Hi folks. I'm trying to voice users in a channel when a condition is met, but `m.channel.voice(nick)` complains "uninitialized constant Channel (NameError)"

04:56 <CodeGnome_> How do I get at the current channel where there was a :join event?

05:36 <CodeGnome_> Gist showing the problem: https://gist.github.com/CodeGnome/418e42a6fa58bfdfac31

05:54 <CodeGnome_> wb v0n

05:58 <leftylink> CodeGnome_: well this is awkward. that code works just fine on this network

05:58 <leftylink> so it seems the code is correct

05:59 <leftylink> well I'm not being precise; I just have this: on :join { |m| m.channel.voice(m.user) }

05:59 <leftylink> but that worked

06:00 <leftylink> er

06:01 <leftylink> with braces the :join needs parentheses, oops

06:02 <leftylink> yeah works... on(:join) { |m| m.channel.voice(m.user) }

06:09 <CodeGnome_> leftylink: I'm not sure why mine isn't working, though.

06:09 <CodeGnome_> Seems like it should.

07:13 <CodeGnome_> leftylink: I think it was a problem with the conditional. I've got it sorted now. Thanks. :)

17:47 <CodeGnome_> Hi, all. I'm trying to get Cinch to reload/restart with an exec, but this doesn't work: `exec Dir.join(Dir.pwd, $0) if m.user.nick == $owner`

17:48 <CodeGnome_> Is there a good way to have Cinch reload itself, with or without a disconnect?

17:51 <eebs> I'm not sure about reloading itself, but if you'd like to minimize reconnects you could use an IRC bouncer like ZNC: http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC

17:54 <CodeGnome_> eebs: I'm talking about the ability to make changes to the bot.

18:02 <dominikh> why does exec not work?

18:03 <dominikh> exec would work (except for the "no disconnect" part. but put a proxy in front of it and people wouldn't notice)

18:21 <CodeGnome_> dominikh: No idea. I've tweaked it a lot. Right now I get "undefined method `join' for Dir:Class (NoMethodError)"

18:21 <CodeGnome_> Probably need File.join.

18:22 <dominikh> well that's not a Cinch error then.

18:22 <CodeGnome_> But it wasn't working before, either.

18:22 <CodeGnome_> But yeah...let me fix that and try again.

18:23 <CodeGnome_> Okay...that sort of works, but I don't get a clean exit. I don't really see a way to bot.exit and still call exec.

18:23 <CodeGnome_> It just breaks the TLS connection.

18:24 <dominikh> if you're going for restarts that nobody from the outside can observe, you will want a proxy such as znc in front of it. if you want a clean restart that doesn't trigger until all outgoing messages have be sent etc, that's not really possible right now iirc

18:25 <CodeGnome_> Would `bot.exit and exec File.join(Dir.pwd, $0) if m.user.nick == $owner` work? I don't care about whether the restarts are seen; I just want them clean.

18:26 <CodeGnome_> I think bot.exit would stop processing, though, so I'm not sure that it would work.

18:26 <eebs> exit isn't a method on Bot, is it?

18:26 <dominikh> you'd have to wait for your call to Bot#start to return. certainly doable, just more complex than those two lines :)

18:26 <CodeGnome_> eebs: Sorry, it's `bot.quit`, but yes it is.

18:27 <eebs> k, just making sure I was looking at the right version and that nothing had changed ;)

18:28 <CodeGnome_> Will bot.quit exit the current script, or can it be chained to an exec?

18:30 <dominikh> even if it didn't, Bot#quit doesn't wait until the bot actually disconnected, so it wouldn't work one way or another.

18:30 <eebs> You could implement your own hot-reloading via your own ruby code

18:31 <CodeGnome_> Isn't there some way to join the thread or wait on the process, then?

18:31 <CodeGnome_> eebs: I don't see any real hooks for that, and I don't want to reimplement the whole thing.

18:31 <leftylink> I'll tell you what I do... I just run in screen this command: while [ -f stay-connected ]; do ruby bot.rb; sleep 3; done

18:32 <dominikh> you need to do something like http://sprunge.us/RORc (completely untested, probably not correct Ruby.)

18:32 <CodeGnome_> leftylink: But I don't always want it to restart. This is for the use case where I've added a new command, and want it to take effect.

18:32 <leftylink> CodeGnome_: mmm... but would you ever want it to NOT restart?

18:32 <CodeGnome_> Generally, if I quit the bot, I want it dead. So, yes.

18:32 <eebs> You can look at what Autumn does, it support hot-reloading: https://github.com/RISCfuture/autumn/blob/master/libs/foliater.rb#L53

18:32 <leftylink> I see. well in such cases I rm stay-connected

18:32 <leftylink> and then the bot will stay dead

18:35 <leftylink> or ctrl c it /me shrugs