#crystal-lang on 2020-01-07 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2019-12-18 20:23 ChanServ changed the topic of #crystal-lang to: The Crystal programming language | http://crystal-lang.org | Crystal 0.32.1 | Fund Crystal's development: http://is.gd/X7PRtI | GH: https://github.com/crystal-lang/crystal | Docs: http://crystal-lang.org/docs/ | API: http://crystal-lang.org/api/ | Gitter: https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal

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00:53 <raz> first we invented VMs to solve the problems with linux distros

00:54 <raz> then we invented containers to solve the problems with VMs

00:54 <raz> then we invented docker to solve the problems with containers

00:54 <raz> then we invented kubernetes to solve the problems with docker

00:55 <raz> and now the layered complexity is so insane that everyone just gives their money to aws/google to manage that nonsense for them :P

00:56 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> the complexity prior to docker/lxc was also pretty intense

00:56 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> vagrant, puppet, etc

00:56 <raz> yeh, don't get me started on those. :D (i do this stuff for a living *sob*)

00:57 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> and before that every install was a hand-tuned or hand-scripted garbage fire

00:57 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> we used sysvinit and we LIKED IT

00:57 <raz> don't get me started on systemd either! :p

00:58 <raz> anyway, didn't mean to hate on docker. personally i actually find plain docker the sweet spot at the moment. with vagrant for dev env sanity.

00:58 <raz> just wouldn't recommend k8s to anyone. unless you have a team for it

00:59 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> what's your alternative for a docker workflow?

00:59 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> swarm is nice for simple personal stuff, but i didnt want to really recommend it since they're also saying go use K8s

00:59 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> I should probably pick up a book on k8s <_<

01:00 <raz> tene, very broad question, depends a lot on the use-case, e.g. what kind of discovery you need

01:00 <raz> basically step 1: avoid zookeeper and anyone using it like the plague

01:00 <raz> anything*

01:02 <raz> and step 2: decide what parts of the persistence layer you really want to host yourself. life becomes infinitely easier if you're willing to let AWS/google have the db and disks

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01:05 <raz> on a more practical note: s6-overlay is wonderful for pid0. treating docker more like VMs also makes life a lot easier.

01:06 * FromGitter * tenebrousedge takes notes

01:09 <raz> but in fairness ofc not all of that is possible in every situation. if you're a 500 people dev team then i guess having a "helm chart unit" can make sense. likewise if you're small and willing to go all in with ecs/fargate/google cloud.

01:11 <raz> just pm me when you've taken the latter too far and google is now sending you these 5 figure invoices for that 500rpm webapp. :D

01:18 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> `CRYSTAL_WORKERS` should be set to the number of cores/thread that a CPU has correct?

01:20 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> er I know thats how it should normally work, but more so curious about what if the CPU has like 28 threads, should it really be set to 28?

01:21 <raz> i would say yes (but don't know much about crystal's multithreading, it's still experimental innit?)

01:21 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> yea

01:21 <raz> in general setting it to the number of physical cores is usually the safe bet

01:22 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/120474/intel-xeon-gold-5120-processor-19-25m-cache-2-20-ghz.html is the cpu `techempower` benchmark uses 😮

01:22 <raz> setting it to the hyperthreads can be good or bad, depending on workload

01:22 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> id imagine it would be running 1 framework at a time, so prob should go for 100% usage

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01:30 <raz> https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/

01:31 <raz> hm, looking at these ranks i think crystal is doing pretty great already

01:31 <raz> wonder if they ran it with MT or without

01:31 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> idt any do

01:31 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> most spawn multiple processes

01:33 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> trying out my athena rewrite on it locally at least for now

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01:37 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> I'm not wild about those performance figures, personally, but I don't think I can do anything to improve them

01:37 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> im not expecting to be the highest (would be surprised if it was)

01:38 <raz> yeh, crystal is way deep in the "good enough" ballpark. i mean, when was the last time you needed to push >200k reqs/sec from a single box ;)

01:38 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> some are just a bit outdated/might not be using optimal setups

01:38 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> 🎶 I want the world / I want the whole world 🎶

01:42 <FromGitter> <straight-shoota> > `CRYSTAL_WORKERS` should be set to the number of cores/thread that a CPU has correct? ⏎ ⏎ Using the number of (logical) cores is typically not a bad idea as default. But obviously, it's not always the best thing. It depends on many factors, the kind of application, environment configuration, machine specs, workload etc.

01:52 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> 👍

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02:16 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> yea rip, this is saying kemal is 2x faster

02:16 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> which is probably an accurate statement

02:25 <FromGitter> <dscottboggs_gitlab> c'mon! what gives? https://carc.in/#/r/8cm7

02:27 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> you're not returning `String | IO`

02:29 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> is @dscottboggs_gitlab making an event library?

02:29 <FromGitter> <dscottboggs_gitlab> no

02:29 <FromGitter> <dscottboggs_gitlab> haha

02:29 <FromGitter> <dscottboggs_gitlab> just a library that responds to an event

02:30 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> fair

02:30 <FromGitter> <dscottboggs_gitlab> how are you supposed to return `String | IO` from a string literal?

02:31 <FromGitter> <dscottboggs_gitlab> I worked around it by just making the proc always return string

02:31 <FromGitter> <dscottboggs_gitlab> kick that can down the road, don't need it rn anyway 😀

02:31 <FromGitter> <ezrast_gitlab> `"string".as(String | IO)`

02:32 <FromGitter> <dscottboggs_gitlab> ...shoulda thought of that.

02:32 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> or use `alias Action = Proc(String, String | IO)` and then use `Action.new do`

02:32 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> ^

02:32 <FromGitter> <dscottboggs_gitlab> oh that's nice

02:58 * FromGitter * tenebrousedge ponders js activerecord interfaces

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04:06 <FromGitter> <girng> @Blacksmoke16 "the former has to compile the binary then run it, the latter just runs it" ⏎ yeah, but the compiler uses around 450mb even after compiling is over, that can't be normal can it?

04:16 <FromGitter> <Daniel-Worrall> It's probably releasable memory. If you had another program request ram, it might release it

04:16 <FromGitter> <Daniel-Worrall> Not like I know about memory though

04:19 <FromGitter> <stnluu_twitter> @girng What ^ said + could be the difference between debug build vs release build

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09:34 <FromGitter> <Nicolab> do you know if we can open several connections with Jennifer (2 postgres servers)?

09:36 <FromGitter> <Nicolab> The connection seems global: https://github.com/imdrasil/jennifer.cr/blob/master/src/jennifer/config.cr#L137 ⏎ and Jennifer::Config.from_uri("postgres://....")

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09:49 <FromGitter> <Nicolab> I have an crazy (or not) thought that crosses my mind. Use Diesel (Rust) in FFI from Crystal. It's challenging but not sure it's safe 😈 ⏎ ⏎ What do you think?

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12:15 <FromGitter> <straight-shoota> @Nicolab Probably not a good idea. An ORM's purpose is to map a database interface to an idiomatic interface in a programming language. In order to that, you would need to customize the API for Crystal in such a way that you're better of skipping Rust/Diesel as an intermediary entirely. Instead, you could simply port it to Crystal.

12:15 <FromGitter> <straight-shoota> There are already a number of ORMs for Crystal, maybe there's already a similar one?

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13:02 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> Granite allows setting up multiple connections and you define which one a model should use

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14:08 <FromGitter> <vlazar> @Nicolab If you are looking for type-safety check out Avram from Lucky.

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14:25 <repo> avram is awesome but still very incomplete feature wise imho

14:27 <repo> https://github.com/luckyframework/avram/issues/31

14:27 <repo> this is pretty basic but still not merged

15:08 <FromGitter> <andrewc910> @Nicolab Jennifer only supports 1 db right now.

15:08 <FromGitter> <andrewc910> The creator is working on multi db support currently. Should be out next release. There is a roadmap in the issues section

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17:08 <FromGitter> <grkek> Hello

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17:09 <FromGitter> <Nicolab> Indeed it seems a bad idea (Diesel and FFI for the DB results). ⏎ ⏎ Thank you for your opinions and good to know that Jennifer is working on Multi DB

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17:11 <FromGitter> <Nicolab> Crecto looks good but less maintained. Someone use Crecto?

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17:11 <FromGitter> <Nicolab> Hello @grkek

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17:12 <FromGitter> <grkek> how are you ?

17:12 <FromGitter> <grkek> @Nicolab

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17:14 <FromGitter> <Nicolab> @grkek Well thank you, in mode 50 tabs open to try to equip me for my Crystal trip :) And you?

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17:15 <FromGitter> <Nicolab> Of course, my IDE also open to test all of this

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17:20 <FromGitter> <grkek> I am mastering neovim rn

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17:20 <FromGitter> <grkek> tired of all the mouse/keyboard switching

17:20 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> check out spacevim too

17:20 <FromGitter> <grkek> also seems like I am loosing hearing in my left ear

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17:21 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> https://spacevim.org/

17:21 <FromGitter> <grkek> that's what you get for listening to noise music

17:21 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> oh dear

17:21 <FromGitter> <grkek> it looks beautiful

17:21 <FromGitter> <grkek> @tenebrousedge

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17:27 <FromGitter> <Nicolab> @grkek shit for your hearing :/ ⏎ ⏎ Neovim is very good, I start quietly too.

17:27 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> It's quite nice. I quite like it for writing backend code. I'm probably going to switch to VSCode (with vim bindings) for writing React/TS, though

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17:28 <FromGitter> <Nicolab> motivated !

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17:29 <FromGitter> <grkek> its comfy af

17:29 <FromGitter> <grkek> i dont like the slack knock brush sound

17:29 <FromGitter> <grkek> so I replaced it with

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17:29 <FromGitter> <grkek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZIpFytCSVc

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17:32 <FromGitter> <Nicolab> https://vim-bootstrap.com

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17:33 <FromGitter> <Nicolab> works with Neovim

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17:34 <FromGitter> <grkek> > Crystal is missing

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17:57 <raz> do people use that to get started with vim nowadays? seems like the worst possible way.

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17:57 <raz> to throw in dozens of random settings with no idea what they do, and half of them probably broken

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18:08 <FromGitter> <grkek> /ourguy/

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18:10 <FromGitter> <Nicolab> @raz yes

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18:13 <FromGitter> <Nicolab> to get started with vim (only for editing some system files), VS code to code

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18:14 <FromGitter> <Nicolab> But I've been editing the system files for years with Nano, hard to break an old habit

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18:21 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> I like nano. With syntax highlighting it's quite nice

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18:27 <FromGitter> <Nicolab> yes, simple and light, it does the job for fast editing

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18:51 <FromGitter> <grkek> how do I turn for example

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18:52 <FromGitter> <grkek> multi type return value into a single type one ?

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18:53 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> `.as(String)`

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18:53 <FromGitter> <grkek> thank you

18:53 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> is also `.as?` which returns `nil` if it could not be casted

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19:36 <FromGitter> <grkek> is there an any type ?

19:36 <FromGitter> <grkek> like

19:36 <FromGitter> <grkek> literally

19:36 <FromGitter> <grkek> idgaf just any kind of a type ?

19:36 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> sort of. You can try `_`

19:37 <FromGitter> <grkek> really ?

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19:37 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> `def foo(bar : _)`

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19:37 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> or just not defining a type

19:37 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> `_` is a bit more explicit

19:37 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> this doesn't work for e.g. procs

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19:40 <FromGitter> <grkek> In src/grip/http_route_handler.cr:48:78 ⏎ ⏎ 48 | content = context.route.handler.call(context).as(Tuple(Symbol | Int32, _)) ⏎ ⏎ ``` ^``` ... [https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=5e14dec90ba7b60f203d5dc1]

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19:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> :<

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19:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> why isn't it working tho

19:41 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> cant do that in a tuple

19:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> why not ?

19:41 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> since types have to be known at compile time

19:42 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> is one of the features of a tuple, they are immutable and types are known at compile time

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19:42 <FromGitter> <grkek> how do you handle returning them and converting them to json ?

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19:42 <FromGitter> <grkek> the response

19:43 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> cant you just call `.to_json` on the response?

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19:43 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> if you need a parameterizable type, you could use generics

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19:44 <FromGitter> <grkek> Nope I can't for some reason

19:44 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> did you add a `require "json"`?

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19:44 <FromGitter> <grkek> this is what is returned

19:44 <FromGitter> <grkek> from a function call

19:44 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> thats kinda gross

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19:45 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> i mean just do `context.route.handler.call(context).to_json`?

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19:45 <FromGitter> <grkek> I mean why the fuck does it return so much

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19:46 <FromGitter> <grkek> Error: no overload matches 'HTTP::Server::Context#to_json' with type JSON::Builder

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19:46 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> one of your route handlers must return the context

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19:46 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> could try like

19:47 <FromGitter> <grkek> I can try and use hash maps ?

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19:47 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=5e14e0403679536f9626cf3c]

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19:47 <FromGitter> <grkek> that looks nice

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19:48 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> still kinda hacky

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19:49 <FromGitter> <grkek> true

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20:07 <FromGitter> <grkek> why is this not working ?

20:07 <FromGitter> <grkek> ```code paste, see link```

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20:09 <FromGitter> <grkek> if I replace the Json::any::type

20:09 <FromGitter> <grkek> with string

20:09 <FromGitter> <grkek> it works

20:09 <FromGitter> <grkek> ???

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20:11 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> yea i dunno, you're in the world of dealing with unions

20:12 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> not an fun place to be :p

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20:12 <FromGitter> <grkek> unions are pain

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20:13 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> indeed

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20:14 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> what are you trying to do? support json responses in your framework?

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20:14 <FromGitter> <grkek> yes oh my god

20:14 <FromGitter> <grkek> I want the first element of the tuple to be

20:14 <FromGitter> <grkek> something like a symbol

20:15 <FromGitter> <grkek> for example

20:15 <FromGitter> <grkek> :ok

20:15 <FromGitter> <grkek> :not_found

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20:15 <FromGitter> <grkek> or an int

20:15 <FromGitter> <grkek> like 204

20:15 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> prob better off using a struct like `Response`

20:15 <FromGitter> <grkek> and the other part to be whatever jsonable the fuck i want

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20:15 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> is probably how im going to implement custom view layers in mine

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20:16 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> if the return type is `Response` then just return it, copying stuff to actual response

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20:16 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> other wise, try to render the response value

20:16 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> maybe with a `Template` type as well, TBD :P

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20:16 <FromGitter> <grkek> interesting

20:16 <FromGitter> <grkek> unions are fucking dumb

20:16 <FromGitter> <grkek> but great

20:17 <FromGitter> <grkek> at the same time

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20:17 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> but in your case it could be like `Response.new 200` or `Response.new :ok` where each is a diff overload, one for Int other for an enum

20:17 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> where the former could just be like `new Status.from_value number`

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20:19 <FromGitter> <grkek> But that is extra steps

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20:19 <FromGitter> <grkek> ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=5e14e7d6810a1042cb7fd525]

20:19 <FromGitter> <grkek> something like that

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20:20 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> id argue `Response.new 200, {body: "Hello, GET!"}.to_json` is more readable than that

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20:21 <FromGitter> <grkek> true

20:21 <FromGitter> <grkek> just realized that

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20:22 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> granted crystal is a bit different to what im used to in how the response is automatically created for you within the context

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20:22 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> idk people's thoughts on like `ctx.response = my_response_obj`

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20:23 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> to allow like overriding the response with your own obj, versus having to pass and mutate the same obj throughout the request lifecycle

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20:25 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> might just monkey patch that in...

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20:27 <FromGitter> <grkek> structs are on stack right ?

20:27 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> yes

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20:33 <FromGitter> <grkek> ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=5e14eb283679536f962727a2]

20:33 <FromGitter> <grkek> I hate

20:33 <FromGitter> <grkek> named tuples now

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20:33 <FromGitter> <grkek> fuck named tuples

20:34 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> indeed

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20:35 <FromGitter> <grkek> the unions are for creating

20:36 <FromGitter> <grkek> types with multiple

20:36 <FromGitter> <grkek> things

20:36 <FromGitter> <grkek> right

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20:36 <FromGitter> <grkek> multiple possible types

20:36 <FromGitter> <grkek> why the fuck does it not work

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20:37 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> because `JSON::Any::Type` != `NamedTuple(Hello: String)`

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20:37 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> you'd need to use generics for this im thinking

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20:38 <FromGitter> <grkek> Generics fucking suck in this context

20:38 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> like `Response(T)`

20:38 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> `Response.new 200, {hello: "world"}` should do the trick

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20:38 <FromGitter> <grkek> hell

20:39 <FromGitter> <grkek> i think i got it

20:39 <FromGitter> <grkek> without using structs

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20:39 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> https://crystal-lang.org/reference/syntax_and_semantics/generics.html#type-variables-inference

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20:39 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> oh?

20:39 <FromGitter> <grkek> ```{:ok, {"Hello" => "World"}.to_json}```

20:39 <FromGitter> <grkek> something like that

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20:40 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> which would always be type `Tuple(Symbol, String)` yes

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20:40 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> but now you're requiring the controller action to handle the rendering of the content

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20:40 <FromGitter> <grkek> that is the way

20:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> kemal did it

20:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> didn't it ?

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20:41 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> kemal uses the return value of the action as the content if its a string yes

20:41 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> if thats how you want it to work is fine

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20:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> I literally

20:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> went away

20:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> from html

20:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> stuff

20:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> and oriented on the rest

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20:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> api thingies

20:42 <FromGitter> <grkek> its json oriented

20:42 <FromGitter> <grkek> removed all the render layout shill

20:42 <FromGitter> <grkek> from it

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20:43 <FromGitter> <grkek> ```code paste, see link``` [https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=5e14ed56a1e15049011c94da]

20:43 <FromGitter> <grkek> it looks like this now

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20:43 <FromGitter> <grkek> it works with the named tuple as well

20:43 <FromGitter> <grkek> crystal is pretty weird tbh

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20:44 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> ha, welcome to the REST world :P

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20:44 <FromGitter> <grkek> ```content = context.route.handler.call(context).as(Tuple)```

20:44 <FromGitter> <grkek> just used that

20:44 <FromGitter> <grkek> I need to hit my head on the wall for couple of minutes

20:44 <FromGitter> <grkek> thank you for the help friend

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20:44 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> why do you need to do the `.as` anyway?

20:44 <FromGitter> <grkek> it has 6 different types

20:44 <FromGitter> <grkek> for some reason

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20:45 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> id maybe look into fixing that is this is the API you want to use

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20:45 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> or at least figure out why that is happening versus putting a bandaid on it

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20:45 <FromGitter> <grkek> It is probably because I use a call_next

20:45 <FromGitter> <grkek> function

20:46 <FromGitter> <grkek> the call goes to the http handler call function

20:46 <FromGitter> <grkek> where there is a switch on the method of the request

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20:46 <FromGitter> <grkek> and accordingly calls the function

20:46 <FromGitter> <grkek> named after themethod

20:46 <FromGitter> <grkek> if not found

20:46 <FromGitter> <grkek> call_next is fired

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20:46 <FromGitter> <grkek> this spawns multiple return routes

20:46 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> that would prob do it, would be the type of a union of all handlers

20:46 <FromGitter> <grkek> true

20:46 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> handler responses*

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20:47 <FromGitter> <grkek> is that horribly bad ?

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20:47 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> having big unions is usually something that should be examined closely

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20:48 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> it's not bad per se, but it's usually a little obnoxious

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20:50 <FromGitter> <grkek> I haven't generated it on purpose :D

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21:09 <FromGitter> <grkek> I have managed to bump the rps to

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21:09 <FromGitter> <grkek> 85k

21:09 <FromGitter> <grkek> single instance

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21:09 <FromGitter> <grkek> @Blacksmoke16

21:10 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> noice

21:10 <FromGitter> <grkek> removed the static file handler

21:10 <FromGitter> <grkek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8c5wmeOL9o

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21:10 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> whats next?

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21:11 <FromGitter> <grkek> Pushing it to github :D

21:11 <FromGitter> <grkek> creating better set of tools for it

21:11 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> i mean feature wise

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21:11 <FromGitter> <grkek> since its just a framework no one would want to use it atm it doesnt have the cool awesome plug and play

21:11 <FromGitter> <grkek> addons

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21:12 <FromGitter> <grkek> you would have to go the C way where you have to write everything by your own

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21:13 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> depends on how you create it

21:13 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> is one of the cons of kemal imo

21:13 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> since everything is defined on top level

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21:13 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> makes it hard to test for example

21:13 <FromGitter> <grkek> top level ?

21:14 <FromGitter> <grkek> you mean module wise ?

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21:14 <oprypin> bcardiff, why does crystal still use Travis CI if seemingly there has been more and more reliance on Circle CI?

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21:14 <FromGitter> <grkek> because its travis

21:14 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> see https://github.com/kemalcr/kemal/pull/378

21:15 <oprypin> i'm mostly curious for myself, not being familiar with Circle but hearing good things about it

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21:15 <FromGitter> <tenebrousedge> I liked circle quite a bit

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21:16 <FromGitter> <grkek> travis is such a chad name

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21:16 <FromGitter> <grkek> @Blacksmoke16 ive seen that but i dont see how that could benefit anyone

21:16 <FromGitter> <grkek> running two instances at the same time ?

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21:17 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> main benefit things wouldnt be tied to global state

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21:18 <FromGitter> <grkek> hmmmm

21:18 <FromGitter> <grkek> sounds interesting

21:18 <FromGitter> <grkek> might try that

21:18 <FromGitter> <grkek> as well

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21:18 <FromGitter> <grkek> intrigue does some messy things to your mind

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21:19 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> like when you

21:19 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> do

21:19 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> ```get "path" do ⏎ "foo" ⏎ end``` [https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=5e14f5fa9c13050f1f8fcb4c]

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21:20 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> https://github.com/kemalcr/kemal/blob/15022c25b824ecbfe465862bfa8a8e37a4b6ab40/src/kemal/dsl.cr#L13

21:20 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> that defines a method on the top level, using a global instance of the router

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21:20 <FromGitter> <grkek> that doesn't exist anymore

21:20 <FromGitter> <grkek> but yeah i use the same

21:20 <FromGitter> <grkek> method to define

21:20 <FromGitter> <grkek> things

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21:20 <FromGitter> <grkek> also i hit a 91k

21:20 <FromGitter> <grkek> mark

21:20 <FromGitter> <grkek> on a single instance

21:20 <FromGitter> <grkek> insane

21:21 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> i suppose you could add those methods into a module or something to help namespace things

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21:21 <FromGitter> <grkek> Maybe just define a sub module

21:21 <FromGitter> <grkek> I might do that tomorrow

21:21 <FromGitter> <grkek> its like 1 in the night here

21:21 <FromGitter> <grkek> rip

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21:21 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> dunno, depends on how you want things to work

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21:25 <FromGitter> <grkek> thank you for the help

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21:26 <FromGitter> <grkek> 93657

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21:26 <FromGitter> <grkek> reached another

21:26 <FromGitter> <grkek> love it

21:26 <FromGitter> <grkek> so basically the static file handler was

21:26 <FromGitter> <grkek> suffocating it

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21:26 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> is a balance between having a framework that is super fast but doesn't really do anything, and one that does a lot but is still fast

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21:27 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> but is slower*

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21:27 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> the key being *fast enough*

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21:28 <FromGitter> <grkek> is my framework really that horrible :D ?

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21:28 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> i was talking generally

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21:29 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> but at this point (after you removed all the kemal features :p) its essentially just a wrapped router with a better dsl

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21:29 <FromGitter> <grkek> not all of them

21:29 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> most* :p

21:29 <FromGitter> <grkek> yeah it is a wrapped router

21:29 <FromGitter> <grkek> but still

21:29 <FromGitter> <grkek> no one needs file serving via rest

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21:30 <FromGitter> <grkek> normal people use cdn

21:30 <FromGitter> <grkek> :D

21:30 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> for sure, but now you need to think about what features you want to add on top of routing

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21:30 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> which is where things get more complicated

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21:30 <FromGitter> <grkek> id love a scaffolding

21:30 <FromGitter> <grkek> and db stuff

21:30 <FromGitter> <grkek> bundled with it

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21:31 <FromGitter> <grkek> im going to do something tremendously stupid

21:31 <FromGitter> <grkek> and integrate leveldb

21:31 <FromGitter> <grkek> with it

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21:31 <FromGitter> <grkek> ill be just like god was to me

21:31 <FromGitter> <grkek> lets mess this boy up

21:31 <FromGitter> <grkek> w8 lemme link somehting

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21:32 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> that would be one option, most frameworks usually come bundled with their own orm

21:32 <FromGitter> <grkek> https://external-preview.redd.it/yVmR9PwpNhPPZ6V0aowtKu7hBfWZPKDwKvKakKZLeBA.png?auto=webp&s=a1c0cd362db79d9eb851c89834886fbd6303a0d2

21:32 <FromGitter> <grkek> here

21:32 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> like rails has activerecord, symfony has doctrine etc

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21:32 <FromGitter> <grkek> I want to make automatic migrations like django has

21:32 <FromGitter> <grkek> its such a comfy feature

21:32 <FromGitter> <grkek> not to write your own migrations

21:32 <FromGitter> <grkek> in pure

21:32 <FromGitter> <grkek> fucking

21:32 <FromGitter> <grkek> SQL

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21:33 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> can be helpful to give extra features, but gotta make sure its feature complete (or enough) to be useable

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21:33 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> sounds like a plan

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21:33 <FromGitter> <grkek> steal couple of ideas from that then from this

21:33 <FromGitter> <grkek> stitch it together

21:33 <FromGitter> <grkek> and done

21:33 <FromGitter> <grkek> tadam

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21:34 <FromGitter> <grkek> call it yours and be proud of it :D

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21:37 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> indeed

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21:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> the more comfy you wrap around something the slower it gets

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21:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> take python for example

21:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> interesting hm

21:41 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> python is slow because its python

21:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> but crystal kinda beat that

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21:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> the statement

21:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> that if you want something fast

21:41 <FromGitter> <grkek> you have to write it in cave language

21:42 <FromGitter> <grkek> ooga booga(){ ⏎ return0; ⏎ }

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21:43 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> no, i meant that when writing a framework (no matter the language) you can make something be super fast (in relation to other frameworks of that language) but not have many features, or be slower than the average framework, but it does a lot of work for you

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21:43 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> the key is the balance between speed and available features

21:43 <FromGitter> <grkek> agreed

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21:43 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> i sacrificed speed in athena for some fancy features, but its still *fast enough*

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21:44 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> ~2x slower than kemal but still plenty fast

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21:47 <FromGitter> <grkek> i really love the

21:47 <FromGitter> <grkek> annotation declarations

21:47 <FromGitter> <grkek> something I have my eye on

21:47 <FromGitter> <grkek> since i've met your framework

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21:47 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> can do some fancy stuff with them :p

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21:48 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> also made a dsl so you can do like

21:48 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> ```get "/foo", return_type: String do ⏎ "bar" ⏎ end``` [https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=5e14fc9dbdcaea189113df79]

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21:48 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> without `return_type` defaults to `Nil` which is a 204

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21:49 <FromGitter> <grkek> 204 is no content ?

21:49 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> ```post "user/:id", id : Int32 do ⏎ # Do something ⏎ end``` [https://gitter.im/crystal-lang/crystal?at=5e14fcdd3679536f9627b76e]

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21:49 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> yes

21:49 <FromGitter> <grkek> moved permanently

21:49 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> no content

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21:49 <FromGitter> <grkek> oh yeah

21:49 <FromGitter> <grkek> i was browsing it in my editor

21:49 <FromGitter> <grkek> in a switch statement

21:50 <FromGitter> <grkek> painful to watch

21:50 <FromGitter> <grkek> lmao

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21:50 <FromGitter> <grkek> so basically kemal is obsolete at this point

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21:50 <FromGitter> <grkek> but you still don't support websockets

21:50 <FromGitter> <grkek> ???

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21:51 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> kemal is deff not obsolete

21:51 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> a bit outdated maybe tho?

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21:51 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> idt annotations even existed when it was first created

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21:54 <FromGitter> <grkek> it is a bit outdated true

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22:00 <FromGitter> <grkek> an IO bound operation such as logging is pretty slow :<

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22:01 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> yes, normally in prod you would only log like warnings or higher

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22:01 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> severity wise

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22:03 <FromGitter> <grkek> lovely

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22:10 <FromGitter> <kinxer> @Blacksmoke16 Would it be possible, in theory, to build a logging framework that uses macros to bundle your logging messages at compile time into a constant hash or array or something and then have a more lightweight access method during runtime, like communicating the hash to the string or an integer index or something to a separate fiber which then accesses the constant hash and does the logging

22:10 <FromGitter> ... asynchronously? Maybe not exactly that, but basically a way to lower logging runtime cost by increasing compile time and executable size?

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22:11 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> the slow part of logging is the IO operations no?

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22:12 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> if anything having the writing of the logged message be its own fiber could help

22:12 <FromGitter> <kinxer> Sure, which is why you're offloading it to an asynchronous fiber.

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22:12 <FromGitter> <kinxer> But you don't even have to communicate the string data to the other fiber; the "logging fiber" just gets the "address" of the actual string that it needs to write.

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22:13 <FromGitter> <kinxer> Maybe the addressing wouldn't save much time in practice, though.

22:13 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> im not familiar enough with how that would play out in a like web framework context. I'd imagine it would be fine as we're not waiting on the fiber to finish so the request would be finished and the logged message would be written at some point, maybe not exactly at the time it was logged tho?

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22:14 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> how would that handle runtime values tho?

22:14 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> like the current user's id etc?

22:14 <FromGitter> <kinxer> Oh... Poorly, I imagine.

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22:15 <FromGitter> <kinxer> There might be a way to finagle it to save a format string and then send any extra data to the logging fiber, a la `printf`.

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22:15 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> probably

22:15 <FromGitter> <kinxer> Though of course we'd want to use Crystal string formatting in the API.

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22:16 <FromGitter> <kinxer> All this said, I don't have the time or interest to actually write this thing. I do think it's interesting that it *could* exist (though I'm not convinced of its usefulness...).

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22:18 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> one question i have with logging each message in a fiber is how that would work in a MT env

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22:19 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> since it would be possible that they get written out of order

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22:19 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> one work around would to maybe use a channel and delay the actual logging till after the response has been returned

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22:19 <FromGitter> <kinxer> Yeah. I think that's an issue you'll have with logging in a MT environment regardless of how you're doing it.

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22:20 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> like collect the messages, but dont actually log them until later

22:20 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> might be a good optimization

22:20 <FromGitter> <kinxer> You could separate log files/outputs by thread or you could mark them with thread and use some heuristic for ordering when the timestamp orders aren't clear.

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22:21 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> for sure, not sure if you can do anything about it without a good amount of effort :p

22:21 <FromGitter> <kinxer> Yeah, I think that's a way that logging is done.

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22:21 <FromGitter> <kinxer> Most of my experience with is in Java with `log4j`.

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22:21 <FromGitter> <Blacksmoke16> https://github.com/Seldaek/monolog is what im most used to

22:22 <FromGitter> <kinxer> Like most things in MT, it takes a lot of thought somewhere along the line.

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