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<incomprehensibly> -listening sing about me i'm dying of thirst
<purr> incomprehensibly is listening to “Sing About Me / I’m Dying of Thirst”, by Kendrick Lamar
<incomprehensibly> -listening be above it tame impala
<purr> incomprehensibly is listening to “Be Above It”, by Tame Impala
<incomprehensibly> -listening mind mischief
<purr> incomprehensibly is listening to “Mind Mischief”, by Tame Impala
<incomprehensibly> so catchy
<vil> wait wat
<vil> my internet was down
<vil> but I'm still connected?
<vil> I don't even
<incomprehensibly> well, if it was down short enough for you not to time out
<incomprehensibly> are you on a local irc client
<incomprehensibly> or some cloudy/sshey thing
<incomprehensibly> :p
<prophile> (SAT solvers)--
<prophile> or does it have to be prefix?
<prophile> --(SAT solvers)
<prophile> neither it seems
<prophile> ----
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<vil> incomprehensibly: must've been shorter than the timeout, yeah
<incomprehensibly> prophile: prefix and space i believe
<incomprehensibly> -- sat solvers
<purr> Let it be known that incomprehensibly hates sat solvers.
<incomprehensibly> ++ sat solvers
<purr> Let it be known that incomprehensibly is indifferent to sat solvers.
<incomprehensibly> -- (sat solvers)
<purr> Let it be known that incomprehensibly hates (sat solvers).
<incomprehensibly> ++ (sat solvers)
<purr> Let it be known that incomprehensibly is indifferent to (sat solvers).
<prophile> -- SAT solvers
<purr> Let it be known that prophile hates SAT solvers.
<prophile> it claims this problem is unsatisfiable
<prophile> it's clearly satisfiable
<prophile> it hates me
<incomprehensibly> haha
<incomprehensibly> those are liek
<incomprehensibly> prophile evaluators
<incomprehensibly> right?
<incomprehensibly> that type of thing?
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<incomprehensibly> ec: <3
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<incomprehensibly> alexgordon:
<incomprehensibly> hey it's early afternoon for you
<incomprehensibly> wait no
<incomprehensibly> evening
<incomprehensibly> right?
<alexgordon> lol
<purr> lol
<alexgordon> 4pm
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<incomprehensibly> oh ok
<incomprehensibly> yeah that would make sense lol
<purr> lol
<joelteon> holy jesus my head hurts soooooo much
<joelteon> oh, wait, no it doesn't
<joelteon> omg meds are amazing
<joelteon> AMAZING
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<incomprehensibly> it's just not that good
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<incomprehensibly> ugh my message didn't get sent
<incomprehensibly> "jesus why are people so obsessed with common lisp"
<incomprehensibly> it's just not that good
<incomprehensibly> like
<incomprehensibly> it used to be special compared to the most common langauges
<incomprehensibly> now it's been surpassed and lispers don't want to admit it
<alexgordon> incomprehensibly: indeed
<alexgordon> -find lisp
<purr> alexgordon: Could not find `lisp`.
<incomprehensibly> -lisp
<incomprehensibly> did there use to be a factoid about it
* incomprehensibly is setting up clojure
<incomprehensibly> clojure is like haskell but funner
<alexgordon> eh
<alexgordon> clojure is useless
<alexgordon> might as well use python
<alexgordon> incomprehensibly: "<alexgordon> why, we lispers spend half as much time writing code as normal programmers, leaving the other half of our time for writing smug essays!"
<incomprehensibly> oh yeah haha
<incomprehensibly> alexgordon: useless?
<incomprehensibly> you have to press enter a lot less than python
<alexgordon> it's dynamically typed and slow
<incomprehensibly> that's something i care about in a language
<alexgordon> and it integrates with java
<alexgordon> python for ease, node for concurrency, C++ for speed, objc for walled gardens
<alexgordon> that's what I do now :P
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<dskuza> pew
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<incomprehensibly> alexgordon: clojure for fun?
<joelteon> yeah, you know, like php for fun
<alexgordon> incomprehensibly: I don't think so :P
<alexgordon> maybe
<incomprehensibly> joelteon: :
<joelteon> lol
<purr> lol
<joelteon> i love me a big steaming mug of trail mix
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<ec> hi!
<alexgordon> hi ec
<ec> -how's the bitcoin doing?
<alexgordon> ec: BITCOINS
<alexgordon> $74, not bad
<alexgordon> ec: paws?
<alexgordon> -spec
<purr> alexgordon: Paws' half-arsed Version 10 specification <http://ell.io/ihQzs>
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<ec> alexgordon: in a second
<alexgordon> kk
<ec> sorry, was phone
<ec> am dog
<ec> So, I've been deathly ill, and minecraft'ing, for the alst week.
<alexgordon> lol
<purr> lol
<alexgordon> got a server?
<ec> paying for one
<ec> only got into it for the girlfriend
<ec> and the night we dived in, I didn't have time to be techie and figure out how to install some java bullshit on the purr server
<ec> so, said fuck it, paid for a low-end one. but the ping is terrible. might host my own in Illinois somewhere, idk.
<alexgordon> I want to see what crazy things you've built
<ec> lol.
<alexgordon> ec + anything is like LSD + anything
<alexgordon> ec = LSD
<ec> I built something for Chelsea. it took 2.92 days of playtime, in a period of approximately five or six days.
<ec> ~70 hours, then
<ec> when I showed her best friend, she goes:
<ec> “… wow.”
<ec> “When you get into something, you REALLY get into it”
<ec> immediately made me think of you, alexgordon, lol
<purr> lol
<alexgordon> “When you get into something, you REALLY get into it”
<alexgordon> …ladies?
<ec> wat
<ec> meant Minecraft.
<ec> lemme upload some photos.
<alexgordon> hm, irc completely fails at conveying tone
<alexgordon> in other news, I will forever be indebted to inimino for freeing me from the second 'm' in 'hmm'
<joelteon> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
<ec> This is what I've been working on, in Minecraft: http://ell.io/iJ0lB
<ec> I've got an adorable ranch-house, with a chicken-coop, kitchenette, library, and a living room with a loft, a king-size bed, and a balcony.
<ec> A central keep/tower, sitting on top of an infinite shaft to the center of the earth; and there's a retracting draw-bridge (that's one complex motherfucker) and centrally-locking gates on the entrances from each cardinal direction (one switch to lock the place down for the night.)
<alexgordon> ec: haha awesome
<ec> functional walls, arrow-slits, crenelations, and everything, all tested for spiders, skeletons, spider-jockeys.
<ec> also, I've found out the hard way that it's fairly effective against humans as well. got locked out once. ddis
<ec> obsidian buried in all the walls, so I had to tunnel *under* the damn place, with my bare hands, to get in (I died inside while it was in lockdown.)
<ec> anyway. pretty much burnt out on solo minecraft, now that that thing is 90% complete. Gonna give it to my girlfriend tonight, when she gets home … then I'm done with this damn game.
<ec> at least, except when I'm playing multiplayer *with* her. that still sounds like fun.
<ec> alexgordon: hi.
<alexgordon> haha
<ec> oh, and an automatic moat.
<alexgordon> yeah I never got into solo minecraft
<alexgordon> it's much funner when you're working with a bunch of people
<alexgordon> to build something big
<ec> deep enough to drown anything that falls in, with flowing-water directed towards the bottom to force things down; and flowing inwards from the walls of the moat, along with high walls on both sides, to prevent anything climbing out once it falls in.
<alexgordon> like a city
<ec> yeah, I've never done that
<ec> that sounds cool
<ec> the only multplayer I've done, is LAN with the girlfriend; and an *attempt* to use the server I'm paying for
<ec> but lag is *atrocious*
<ec> even with a ping that sounds low to me (300ms)
<alexgordon> 300ms is 1/3 of a second :P
<ec> yes, I know
<alexgordon> that's pretty terrible
<alexgordon> 300ms on LAN?
<ec> but in other situations where I've been aware of ping, 300ms was reasonable
<alexgordon> what's your LAN made out of, string?
<ec> no, 300ms to the server I'm paying for.
<ec> the LAN was absolutely fine.
<ec> open single-player up to lan, have girlfriend connect. easy-peasy.
<alexgordon> oh I see
<ec> but I want to get Chelsea's best friend (the reason for this whole mess …), her boyfriend, Chelsea, and myself, all on one server together
<alexgordon> ec: so where were we with paws?
<ec> I don't remember at all.
<ec> it's been, what, three weeks, at least?
<alexgordon> less
<alexgordon> ec: we did advance I think
<alexgordon> -spec
<purr> alexgordon: Paws' half-arsed Version 10 specification <http://ell.io/ihQzs>
<alexgordon> ec: so we're up to staging?
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<joelteon> so you can complete running processes in zsh
<joelteon> with kill
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<incomprehensibly> ec:
<incomprehensibly> ec:
<incomprehensibly> 12:56 PM <•ec> I built something for Chelsea. it took 2.92 days of playtime, in a period of approximately five or six days.
<incomprehensibly> 12:56 PM <•ec> ~70 hours, then
<incomprehensibly> 12:56 PM <•ec> “… wow.”
<incomprehensibly> 12:56 PM <•ec> “When you get into something, you REALLY get into it”
<incomprehensibly> 12:56 PM <•ec> when I showed her best friend, she goes:
<incomprehensibly> i must see this
<incomprehensibly> 1:20 PM <•ec> also, I've found out the hard way that it's fairly effective against humans as well. got locked out once. ddis
<incomprehensibly> hahahah
<alexgordon> hi incomprehensibly
<incomprehensibly> y1:24 PM <•alexgordon> what's your LAN made out of, string?
<incomprehensibly> hi alexgordon
<incomprehensibly> ec: come baaaack i love you
<alexgordon> ec: come back, your fan club is wating
<alexgordon> *waiting
<alexgordon> also wating
<incomprehensibly> currently designing/working on a game with friends based on what I love about minecraft
<incomprehensibly> it's basically an underground roguelike metroidvania
<alexgordon> cubes?
<incomprehensibly> based on
<incomprehensibly> light
<incomprehensibly> no
<incomprehensibly> the first few nights when you huddle in a cave
<incomprehensibly> and make torches
<alexgordon> hah
<incomprehensibly> so basically you are underground and everything's pitch black by default unless you light it up
<incomprehensibly> and you basically die right away to the monsters if you go in the dark
<incomprehensibly> you start off wth a torch in your hand
<incomprehensibly> if you drop torches they sputter out after a bit
<incomprehensibly> but you can build a bonfire
<incomprehensibly> but you have to keep feeding it
<incomprehensibly> eventually you get electric light
<incomprehensibly> etc.
<incomprehensibly> but it's like you expand your influence throughout this randomly generated cave
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<ec> incomprehensibly: hiiiii
<incomprehensibly> ec: hihihihi
<alexgordon> hi
<purr> alexgordon: hi!
<ec> incomprehensibly: that sounds really innovative.
<alexgordon> hi purr
<purr> alexgordon: hi!
<ec> a game entirely based around light mechanics.
<alexgordon> howdy purr
<ec> is there any combat? I think it would be cool if there was no combat at all.
<incomprehensibly> hm
<incomprehensibly> yeah my friend was kind of opposed to that but I kind of liked that idea
<ec> just light.
<ec> like, you're fuckin' lost in a deep-cave system. It's not like you brought *weapons*.
<ec> you just want to get out of these infinitely deep caves.
<incomprehensibly> yeah
<ec> incomprehensibly: there's photos of what I've been working on, above.
<incomprehensibly> looked at the zip
<incomprehensibly> looks sweet
<ec> incomprehensibly: a single droplr'd photo, and then a droplr link to a zip.
<ec> yeah, that
<incomprehensibly> showed my minecraft-obsessed little brother
<incomprehensibly> he liked it
<ec> IT'S LIKE LEGOS FOR ADULTS OMG
<incomprehensibly> haha yeah
<incomprehensibly> also for kids
<incomprehensibly> he's currently obsessed with making a tardis
<incomprehensibly> like there's a pressure plate activating a command block that teleports you
<incomprehensibly> so you come out in a different tardis
<ec> LOL
<purr> LOL
<ec> just finished a Doctor Who book, like, fifteen minutes ago.
<ec> Alistair Reynolds. One of my favourite authors. Not to be confused with Alistair Lynn.
<ec> it was actually … not up to his usual standards. /=
<ec> when it's not in live-action form, I find the Doctor Who stuff a bit hard to swallow.
<ec> A whole lot of preachy, not a whole lot of innovation.
<incomprehensibly> i have an alistair reynolds book in my room
<incomprehensibly> i think
<incomprehensibly> no it's vernor vinge
<incomprehensibly> or something
<ec> Too much soft-science for me, glossing over the wishy-washy “magic” technology.
<ec> <3 Vernor Vinge
<purr> Let it be known that ec hearts Vernor Vinge.
<ec> <3 Alistair Reynolds
<purr> Let it be known that ec hearts Alistair Reynolds.
<ec> <3 Charles Stross
<purr> Let it be known that ec hearts Charles Stross.
<ec> <3 Isaac Asimov
<purr> Let it be known that ec hearts Isaac Asimov.
<ec> <3 Terry Pratchett
<purr> Let it be known that ec hearts Terry Pratchett.
<ec> <3 Neal Stephenson
<purr> Let it be known that ec hearts Neal Stephenson.
<incomprehensibly> house of suns
<incomprehensibly> is the book
<incomprehensibly> you basically got me into half those authors
<ec> <3 George R. R. Martin
<purr> Let it be known that ec hearts George R. R. Martin.
<incomprehensibly> read charles stross and anathem and discworld thanks to you I think
<ec> <3 Frank Herbert
<purr> Let it be known that ec hearts Frank Herbert.
<ec> <3 /me grins
<purr> Let it be known that ec hearts /me grins.
<ec> oops
<ec> -- /me grins
<purr> Let it be known that ec is indifferent to /me grins.
<incomprehensibly> ec: about to make a game development ide
<incomprehensibly> that doesn't suck
<incomprehensibly> it's gonna be reactive/signal flowey
* ec nods
<incomprehensibly> should i call it Signal
<incomprehensibly> or Impulse
<incomprehensibly> or somethin
<incomprehensibly> thisi si really important
<incomprehensibly> names are super important
<incomprehensibly> of course
<incomprehensibly> yknow
* ec grins
<ec> What colour should the name be?
<ec> What should we name the bikeshed?
<incomprehensibly> ya
<ec> What version-numbering system should we use when we improve upon the bikeshed?
<incomprehensibly> yep
<incomprehensibly> but see
<incomprehensibly> I have a terminal open
<incomprehensibly> and I have typed
<incomprehensibly> "lein new app"
<incomprehensibly> the next thing I type has to be the name
<ec> lein?
<incomprehensibly> clojure project manager
<ec> is clojure a thing?
<ec> that I should care about?
<incomprehensibly> clojure is the best thing
<incomprehensibly> i'm in love with it
* ec brew install clojure's
<ec> ugh
<ec> so Chelsea and her mother just came home; they've been gone for a week
<incomprehensibly> WHEN THE WIND PICKED UP
<incomprehensibly> THE FIRE SPREAD
<incomprehensibly> THE GRAPEVINES SEEMED LEFT FOR DEAD
<incomprehensibly> -song grapevine fires
<purr> incomprehensibly: “Grapevine Fires” by Death Cab for Cutie: <http://tinysong.com/I4NJ>, “Grapevine Fires [KFOG Private Concert]” by Death Cab for Cutie: <http://tinysong.com/ypJE>, “Grapevine Fires - Audio” by Death Cab for Cutie: <http://tinysong.com/ils8>
<incomprehensibly> <3 <3 <3
<purr> Let it be known that incomprehensibly hearts <3 <3.
<incomprehensibly> -- <3 <3
<purr> Let it be known that incomprehensibly is indifferent to <3 <3.
<ec> I've been sick, and *just* started to get a little bit better as of yesterday or the day before. So instead of leaving, as planned, I ended up staying here to meet her
<ec> so was suuuuuper excited to see her tonight
<ec> now, they're here, and she's suuuuuuper touchy and weird
<incomprehensibly> the mom?
<ec> it was really nice when she got here, but she's gone intensely downhill immediately after the super-happy super-huggy super-lovey homecoming
<ec> her roomate had kinda-sorta trashed the place while she was gone
<ec> (he's messy. and party-y. and young. and stupid, kinda.)
<incomprehensibly> the mom's super touchy and weird?
<ec> but worse, she'd *asked* me if her place was a disaster zone, yesterday, and I said “No. It's fine.”
<ec> no, Chelsea.
<incomprehensibly> oh ok
<ec> so, by my standards, and by what I *expected* out of Max, it wasn't bad. (I've seen the place trashed and terrible because of him.)
<ec> also, I cleaned up a bit right before she came home. So I expected her to be happy with it, and relieved that five days of her roommate being unsupervised, didn't go terribly.
<ec> … instead, she's in suuuuuper-duper CLEAN ALLLLL OF THE THINGS mode now, because she apparently couldn't handle how messy it was.
<alexgordon> ?
<alexgordon> I'm confused
<ec> and grumpy, and won't talk to me. Can't tell if just because she's stressed, or if it's because I apparently mis-represented the state of her home, to her.
<incomprehensibly> ec: oh that's weird/bad
<incomprehensibly> -song your new twin sized bed
<purr> incomprehensibly: “Your New Twin Sized Bed” by Death Cab for Cutie: <http://tinysong.com/mGtw>, “Your New Twin Sized Bed (Album Version) [Album Version]/Album Version” by Death Cab for Cutie: <http://tinysong.com/fmJe>, “Your New Twin Sized Bed (Album Version)” by Death Cab for Cutie: <http://tinysong.com/J5Zp>
<ec> alexgordon: why are you confused?
<alexgordon> ec: who "she" was
<alexgordon> the whole story
<ec> Chelsea, got home, and was grumpy because mess.
<ec> not sure what else is confusing.
<alexgordon> laconic
<ec> she's being *really* weird. idk what's up.
<alexgordon> probably cheating on your. delete the facebooks, lawyer up, hit the gym.
<alexgordon> *you
<ec> lol alexgordon
<purr> lol
<ec> already knew that
<alexgordon> ...
<incomprehensibly> ...
* alexgordon types … in caps
<alexgordon> >>>
<ec> •••
<incomprehensibly> lul
<alexgordon> yes that
<incomprehensibly> "already knew that" meaning
<ec> ⚈⚈⚈
<ec> was a joke
<incomprehensibly> ok lol
<alexgordon> oh right
<alexgordon> never know with you elliott
<incomprehensibly> SEEING CLOJURE SYNTAXHIGHLIGHTED IN MY TEXT EDITOR MAKES ME FEEL WARM AND FUZZY
<alexgordon> incomprehensibly: you call that an essay?
<incomprehensibly> alexgordon: whe
<alexgordon> whe
<ec> essay
<ec> whe,
<ec> -whe
<ec> -whe
<purr> ec: essay
<incomprehensibly> -whe
<purr> incomprehensibly: essay
<incomprehensibly> :)
<incomprehensibly> when i have run in the morning i actually feel hungry throughout the day
<incomprehensibly> to a greater degree than usual
<incomprehensibly> but still not very much