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<joelteon> will ec get pissed if I say his girlfriend is gross
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<joelteon> ok i just made a neat haskell package
<devyn> joelteon: share
<joelteon> it checks how up to date your cabal file is
<joelteon> if there are any new packages that you're version-constrained not to use
<devyn> heh
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<joelteon> guys
<joelteon> i have a question
<alexgordon> joelteon: NO
<joelteon> rats
<joelteon> ok so
<joelteon> is a network socket like a long cardboard tube reaching to your destination
<joelteon> or is it like TWO long cardboard tubes
<joelteon> reaching to your destination
<joelteon> one for reading, one for writing
<joelteon> if a TCP socket has data waiting to be read, and you try to write to it, does your data crash into their data and explode?
<alexgordon> joelteon: ...
<alexgordon> joelteon: I see you're ready to become an enterprise programmer
<joelteon> i am
<alexgordon> your mind is ready
<joelteon> no but i mean, seriously
<joelteon> can you write to a TCP socket that has data waiting to be read
<joelteon> without anything bad happening
<joelteon> i seriously don't know
<joelteon> i don't know how sockets work
<joelteon> your silence is starting to worry me
<whitequark> joelteon: two
<joelteon> see, that's what I thought
<joelteon> but I wasn't sure
<alexgordon> joelteon: lol TCP sockets are just like UDP sockets with some extra stuff
<purr> lol
<joelteon> I DON'T KNOW HOW UDP SOCKETS WORK EITHER
<alexgordon> THEY'RE VERY STUPID
<whitequark> learn the OSI stack from the ground up
<whitequark> done.
<joelteon> ok cool, so now i can go bitch at the rust people
<whitequark> go bitch at the rust people
<joelteon> and tell them to make port/chan adapters for tcp streams
<alexgordon> whitequark: ha
<joelteon> that or I could just unsafely allow two threads access to the socket
<joelteon> wow, so i'm actually not very smart
<whitequark> yes.
<alexgordon> joelteon: UDP is just "here's some shit. FUCKING DEAL WITH IT"
<joelteon> i thought that i wrote my old bot code the complete wrong way
<joelteon> but i didn't
<joelteon> wow
<alexgordon> jeannicolas: TCP is more... "let's have a nice chat"
<alexgordon> erm
<joelteon> ok thanks for being here for me in this difficult time guys
<alexgordon> joelteon
<joelteon> i'd tell a udp joke but you might not get it
<alexgordon> TCP is always looking out for you
<joelteon> the bad thing about tcp jokes is that if you don't get it they'll keep telling it over and over
<joelteon> ok awesome
<alexgordon> joelteon: you know the TNG episode about picard's horse saddle? yeah well TCP is the guy at the party
<joelteon> that's a load off my mind
<joelteon> no i have no idea what you're talking about
<alexgordon> excellent
<joelteon> but i'll take your word for it
<alexgordon> joelteon: should I tell it again?
<joelteon> nah we're good
<joelteon> FIN WAIT 1
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<audy> someone stream breaking bad to me
<audy> I thought bram cohen had figured this out
<whitequark> I find "ack" rather useful in real life
<whitequark> when you don't really have anything to reply but wanna acknowledge the act of reception
<whitequark> great response to small talk.
<prophile> the germans have 'genau' for that
<whitequark> the spaniards (I think) just use ok
<whitequark> to the point of where it becomes slightly awkward
<whitequark> I can talk for like five minutes and the guy will reply with "ok" for every second message
<whitequark> prophile: do you know german?
<prophile> no
<prophile> but my older sister is german
<prophile> and when she's just back from germany she takes a couple of days to transition from one language to another
<prophile> which leads to the occasional genau
<whitequark> heh
<alexgordon> whitequark: not sure where I read it, but the japanese apparently have created somewhat of an art out of that
<alexgordon> actually now that I think, it may have been yahoo answers -_-