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<ec> hi all
<ec> alexgordon: here?
<ec> oh gods
<ec> “Wherein we develop a comprehensive mathematical proof of the inexistance of a merciful god”
<ec> angles do not seem right, as if they don't quite fit.
<ec> going in further to find the source of the whispering
<ec> /
<ec> // WONDER TWIN POWERS ACTIVATE
<ec> //
<alexgordon> ec: here
<alexgordon> it's 1:30
<alexgordon> ec: am
<ec> I just got out of bed
<ec> with a raging headache
<ec> time to go get food
<alexgordon> I am going to do the reverse
<ec> poop?
<alexgordon> eat, then sleep
<ec> then poop?
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<joelteon> ok I'm getting pretty sick of booting up a VM to do development
<ec> joelteon: why do you need a VM?
<joelteon> because i can't compile on the VPS
<joelteon> I don't want to buy a VPS I can compile on, because it would be wasted
<joelteon> because I don't compile very much
<micahjohnston> ec:
<micahjohnston> al
<ec> ?
<ec> joelteon: confused, what?
<micahjohnston> ec: failed to tabcomplete the absent alexgordon
<joelteon> ec: what
<joelteon> I have a VPS, that runs my site
<joelteon> and I have my site locally
<joelteon> the source
<ec> joelteon: confused about why you can't compile on your server, and why running a VM somehow helps with that
<joelteon> and I have to compile it
<joelteon> the server has 512MB of RAM and the linker gets killed
<joelteon> I can configure a VM with as much as I want
<ec> what the *fuck* is your website running on
<ec> that it A) has to be compiled, and B) has to be compiled with ≥ 512MB of RAM.
<joelteon> yesod
<ec> jesus, srsly?
<joelteon> well i mean, yeah
<joelteon> ghc likes ram
<joelteon> quite a lot
<ec> I google you, and I get “Town Car Version Control - Joel on Software”
<joelteon> joelt.io
<micahjohnston> i'm pretty disappointed in most haskell web frameworks i've seen
<micahjohnston> mostly makes me agree with people who say haskell is too straitjackety
<joelteon> i like yesod quite a lot
<micahjohnston> is it super monadey
<micahjohnston> i hate monad transformers
<micahjohnston> holy fuck breaking bad is a good show
<micahjohnston> well, gnight everyone
<micahjohnston> I'm off to college in the morning
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<whitequark> ec: I once compiled entire LLVM with 512 MB of RAM.
<ec> hi…
<whitequark> it swapped like crazy while it was linking its enormous binaries for minutes, but it worked
<whitequark> hi
<purr> whitequark: hi!
<ec> I''m high on ambien, and reallly, really depressed
<whitequark> that's ok
<whitequark> oh, insomnia
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<jesusabdullah> ec no ambiens :C
<micahjohnston> ec: sent from my dorm room
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<alexgordon> SUP
<micahjohnston> alexgordon: SENT FROM MY DORM ROOM
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: OMG
<joelteon> DORM
<joelteon> ROOM
<micahjohnston> BITCH DON'T KILL MY VIIIBE
<micahjohnston> BITCH DON'T KILL MY VIIIBE
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: apple laptop: check. dorm room: check. You're officially a college student!
<micahjohnston> hahaa
<micahjohnston> yeah
<joelteon> WARM DOOM
<alexgordon> lol I think whitequark was right about you, joelteon
<purr> lol
<joelteon> yeah
<joelteon> i've never said anything useful in here
<alexgordon> you're even worse than me!
<joelteon> no i'm not
<alexgordon> nah, I purposefully derail the conversation :0
<joelteon> oh, ok
<alexgordon> hell, I'm doing it now
<joelteon> yep
<joelteon> i'm just sitting here trying to figure out what sidekiq does
<alexgordon> joelteon: what is your opinion of KFC?
<alexgordon> actually I should ask someone vaguely french
<alexgordon> jeannicolas: what is your opinion of KFC?
<joelteon> i've never actually had kfc
<alexgordon> me neither
<jeannicolas> erm… it's fried chicken...
<jeannicolas> nothing special...
<jeannicolas> you can probably get better fried chicken anywhere else
<alexgordon> jeannicolas: in montreal do they serve the KFC with a good wine?
<jeannicolas> they don't… they serve it with gravy
<alexgordon> WHAT
<jeannicolas> you should ask someone who's form the south… they'd know more about fried chicken than I do...
<joelteon> you should ask a black person
<alexgordon> I wasn't going to say it...
<micahjohnston> kfc is one of the things we have for dinner when my mom is too busy to make it
<alexgordon> but it's alright because joelteon said it
<alexgordon> hey, micahjohnston is black!
<micahjohnston> hey yeah i am
* micahjohnston is currently listening to hip hop
<micahjohnston> that proves it
<alexgordon> well also your picture...
<alexgordon> -paws
<purr> alexgordon: “the scientology of programming langiages” <http://ell.io/iksN9>
<micahjohnston> well yeah but more evidence
<micahjohnston> langiages
<joelteon> lagungins
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: so how many people in your dorm have you converted?
<joelteon> wow i just almost typed gungans
<joelteon> that brings me back
<micahjohnston> alexgordon: I played probably a small part in *de*converting one of my roommates
<micahjohnston> used to be mormon
<alexgordon> mormonism: doing it WRONG
<micahjohnston> there're 4 of us
<micahjohnston> me and my best friend who's an atheist
<micahjohnston> and across the bathroom, ex-mormon and another person i don't think is mormon
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: maybe utah does have a future!
<vil> micahjohnston: college! :D
<joelteon> isn't utah like the largest consumer of pornography in the USA
<micahjohnston> vil: ya :D
<micahjohnston> joelteon: yeah, paid or whatever
<micahjohnston> also one of the highest depression rates/anti depressant usage
<micahjohnston> correlation causation statistics etc. etc.
<joelteon> heh, utah
<joelteon> OH UTAH
<micahjohnston> interpret that shit how you will
<micahjohnston> alexgordon: yeah, most of my closest friends are nonreligious/once-religious
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: but are any of them engage in shape-oriented temporal automorphisms?
<alexgordon> *do
<micahjohnston> hahahahaa
<micahjohnston> o/
<alexgordon> \o
<joelteon> they are become death
<vil> micahjohnston: so when do classes start?
<micahjohnston> vil: monday
<vil> coolio
<vil> mine are the tuesday after labor day
<micahjohnston> physics, calculus III, CS (discrete structures, set theory type stuff), and beginning linguistics
<micahjohnston> when's labor day?
<vil> uh
<joelteon> in awhile
<micahjohnston> oh ok you've got a couple weeks then
<joelteon> man, school
<micahjohnston> hey guys
<vil> September 2
<joelteon> i wonder if college is fun
<micahjohnston> <3 caffeine
<purr> Let it be known that micahjohnston hearts caffeine.
<joelteon> should i go to college
<vil> joelteon: yes it's fun
<vil> coffeeee
<vil> can't wait to live near starbucks again
<joelteon> we get free coffee here
<vil> I get $100 in dining dollars to spend per semester in addition to my meal plan, most go to starbucks
<joelteon> but it's not very good :<
<joelteon> oh neat
<joelteon> how much does college cost you
<vil> a lot
<joelteon> yeah, that was my main blocker
<micahjohnston> vil: oh we can have flex dollars but I chose transfer meals instead
<vil> and I get pretty much no financial aid, at least not from the govt
<micahjohnston> I get one meal to get somewhere else on campus every day
<vil> oh, nice!
<micahjohnston> but also the breakfast place in my meal plan has coffee
<joelteon> yeah, I got no financial aid either because I was a lazy piece of shit in high school
<vil> we get unlimited foods in the dining halls and some amount of dining dollars according to plan
<vil> joelteon: that's the thing, I don't get anything anyway
<vil> so I wish I hadn't put as much effort in
<micahjohnston> my meal plan is like the only thing I have to pay for and my parents are paying for it
<micahjohnston> because I got a huge scholarship
<micahjohnston> :p
<joelteon> you fucker
<vil> micahjohnston: nice
<vil> also that
<vil> :D
<joelteon> i forgot to fill out an application for a scholarship and my parents wanted me to raise the money to pay for it instead
<vil> I get a small one from the school itself, which is nice
<micahjohnston> mm
<joelteon> eventually I realized "this is a bad idea"
<vil> I pay for books, lab fees, etc, and my mom is covering the tuition itself for now
<micahjohnston> the school pays for my tuition, mandatory fees, and housing (well, the cheapest kind of room, but can't complain)
<vil> all the rooms at Tech are fairly equivalent, just vary in number of occupants/size
<vil> micahjohnston: how's the internet connection?
<micahjohnston> sweet
* micahjohnston does a speedtest
<vil> awesome, isn't it?
<vil> I can't wait to get back
<vil> they just swapped out our 1GB pipe for TEN
<micahjohnston> 4ms ping
<micahjohnston> 37MBPS
<joelteon> work internet is like that, except everything is portblocked
<joelteon> so no haxball for me
<micahjohnston> Mbps*
<vil> sweet :D
<vil> joelteon: ew
<micahjohnston> that sucks
<joelteon> we're "working on it"
<vil> Tech lets you do whatever the hell you want except illegal torrenting
<micahjohnston> whoa upload is 49 Mbps
<joelteon> apparently there will be a completely open network
<joelteon> sometime within the next 200 years or so
<vil> micahjohnston: wow
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: fuck youuuuuuu!
<micahjohnston> alexgordon: hahaha
<vil> Tech is like 60/20, or was
<micahjohnston> alexgordon: no, fuck the mormons 100 miles to the south who are getting fiber
<vil> not sure how much of the new pipe the dorms will get
<micahjohnston> 50 miles*
<alexgordon> micahjohnston: I get 14mpbs / 2mpbs
<alexgordon> :P
<vil> micahjohnston: really long ethernet cable
<micahjohnston> that ain't bad
<micahjohnston> probably better than my home internet
<joelteon> You can get 200mbps in Moscow
<joelteon> for cheap
<vil> better than mine
<micahjohnston> caffeineinenieneineni
<alexgordon> ...according to whitequark
<vil> ^
<joelteon> whitequark is always right
<alexgordon> vil: illegal torrenting?
<alexgordon> how do they know
<vil> they don't
<vil> but the ISP watches
<vil> and Tech will toss you off if they get notified
<vil> not sure exactly how it works
<vil> don't want to find out, either
<alexgordon> "and Tech will *toss you off*"
<joelteon> tech will give you a handjob for torrenting
<joelteon> where do I sign up
<vil> I do not take responsibility for british sayings
<vil> joelteon: mtu.edu/apply
<alexgordon> I'm glad that girls put so much thought into it?
<joelteon> o_o
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<micahjohnston> vil: my roommate has a seedbox
<micahjohnston> for torrenting
<vil> heh, ncie
<vil> *nice
<vil> I'm using Bittorrent Sync now, hoping that it doesn't trip their monitoring systems
<vil> I can always use the iMac here at home if I really feel like it, too, but meh
<joelteon> You know what you should do is buy a VPS, torrent from it, then download
<joelteon> or something like that.
<joelteon> Yeah seedbox
<vil> I don't torrent much anyway
<micahjohnston> vil: are you in the dorms?
<micahjohnston> also sorry I forgot where you're going again
<vil> yeah
<vil> Michigan Tech
<joelteon> MiT
<vil> lolno
<purr> lolno
<joelteon> in a manner of speaking
<vil> hi purr
<purr> vil: hi!
<vil> I missed you =<3
<vil> whoa what happened to that heart
<vil> <3 purr
<purr> Let it be known that vil hearts purr.
<joelteon> =3
<joelteon> I had an interview for MIT
<joelteon> it was scary
<vil> I thought about applying just to see what would happen
<vil> but didn't end up doing it
<joelteon> well, it doesn't hurt
<vil> I only applied to two places, got in both
<joelteon> you're just not gonna get in
<vil> Tech is awesome
<vil> extremely glad I chose it
<joelteon> I wish I could relocate my tab key
<joelteon> no, of course I can
<vil> caps lock → control was the best thing I ever did to my keyboard
<joelteon> same here
<joelteon> but i would like tab for option or something like that
<joelteon> i rarely use tab
<joelteon> in a perfect world I'd only use it for irc
<vil> my problem is that I want escape and control in the same place
<vil> which I could do
<vil> but I already use a tap of caps lock to open alfred
<joelteon> maybe tab -> option, lshift -> tab
<vil> too many things
<joelteon> i'd also like to be able to use the same hotkeys to cycle through tmux panes and windows on my desktop
<joelteon> but that's just a pipe dream
<joelteon> focus follows eyes would be better
<vil> soon
<vil> nah, focus follows mind
<joelteon> yeah but that's more complicated
<vil> just slightly
<micahjohnston> i did an MIT interview
<micahjohnston> but then it was christmas break and I hadn't gotten letters of recommendation and the application due date was before school started again
<micahjohnston> so I didn't go
<micahjohnston> and also I'm glad I'm going here because it's soooo much cheaper
<micahjohnston> would be even without the scholarship
<joelteon> did you get in
<joelteon> or did you not apply
<micahjohnston> joelteon: ctrl/cmd-tab?
<micahjohnston> joelteon: didn't finish application
<joelteon> what
<joelteon> oh
<joelteon> I use ctrl-hjkl to navigate between panes
<micahjohnston> ah ok
<joelteon> and ctrl+option+ht to cycle through windows
<micahjohnston> linuxfag?
<joelteon> for...reasons
<joelteon> no
<micahjohnston> tiling window manager?
<joelteon> mac fag
<joelteon> yes
<micahjohnston> oh but you got some programs to help you out?
<micahjohnston> or what
<joelteon> to help me out to do what
<vil> I use Moom to move windows around, but not to navigate them
<vil> it works well
<joelteon> ok i'm gonna do this vil
<micahjohnston> SWIMMING POOL FULL OF LIQUOR AND THEY DIIIVE IN
<vil> joelteon: I need to set it up, it's sweet
<joelteon> holy shit it actually works
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<vil> joelteon: excellent
<joelteon> i'm downloading GHC source but it's gonna be 38 minutes
<joelteon> because haskell.org is going slow
<joelteon> what should I do in the meantime
<vil> joelteon: lol nice commit message
<purr> lol
<joelteon> thanks
<vil> THE KEYS ARE TOO DAMN HIGH
<alexgordon> baaack
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<alexgordon> why did ec want to know about linear transformations again?
<alexgordon> how do I get that stack thing from purr?
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