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<B0101> hi, for HF from rust remover, will impurities like Butyl Cellosolve and Nonyl Phenolethoxylate affect the chip in CMOS processes?
<Sync__> yes
<Sync__> anyting but metal free hf is bad
<B0101> so organic impurities aren't as bad as metal contaminants?
<Sync__> yes but you still want to get rid of anything organic
<Sync__> metal contamination will ruin your lifetime
<Sync__> which is your main enemy
<B0101> how high are the chances of organic compounds bonding to the wafer?
<Sync__> the problem more or less is that rust remover grad hf will not be metal free
<Sync__> and if it is not metal free it is of no use at all
<B0101> hmm, the MSDS and label's ingredients list shows no metallic compounds. So I'd have to test for metal compounds?
<Sync__> metallic compounds are not what you are after
<Sync__> trace amounts is what it is
<Sync__> and I'd really wonder if you get trace metal grade HF over the counter
<B0101> Over the counter? I wish...
<B0101> more like over the black market counter...
<Sync__> I guess it'd be easy enough to get hf imported from the us or something
<B0101> well, for the lab I work in, yes, but for personal use? In my dreams
<Sync__> just get someone in the us to send it to you
<B0101> It'll get intercepted in customs check
<B0101> Even chewing gum is banned here
<B0101> and I'd be lucky if the package passes the X-ray machine check
<Sync__> haha I'd move abroad
<B0101> Though for now, I have an idea
<B0101> Malaysia is connected to singapore by a bridge linking the 2 together
<B0101> I noticed that if you're on a family trip (with old folks and even children in the car), they don't even check your belongings and let you through
<B0101> maybe I can get a friend in Malaysia to send it to me on his next family trip
<B0101> oops... maybe I should have encrypted my chat session
<B0101> I don't know about the US but I highly suspect that every single phone call, internet search is intercepted by a live operator
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