azonenberg changed the topic of #homecmos to: Homebrew CMOS and MEMS foundry design | Wiki: http://homecmos.drawersteak.com/wiki/Main_Page | Repository: http://code.google.com/p/homecmos/ | Logs: http://en.qi-hardware.com/homecmos-logs/
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<azonenberg> Stages just arrived
<azonenberg> have yet to try them but they look nice
<Sync_> yeah
<glowplug`> I created a logo if you want to set it. Its not the best but... well yeah...
<glowplug`> Also your link to the mediawiki on googlecode is broken. ;)
<Sync_> hmm they only have a linear slide in the middle
<Sync_> oh nice, those are not all THAT expensive http://www.schneeberger.com/uploads/pics/Spezialkomponenten_01.jpg
<glowplug`> As a replacement for the guide rods?
<Sync_> yes
<glowplug`> Hmm..
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<Sync_> those are VERY nice :D
<Sync_> they are absolutely free of any play
<glowplug`> How much for a set?
<Sync_> around 200$ I'd have thought they'd be more expensive
<glowplug`> I think I'll attempt the guiderods. =D
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<Sync_> I'm currently getting some better measuring equipment
<glowplug`> Links?
<Sync_> I mean, you get something that is guaranteed to be within 5µm/1000mm
<Sync_> the only issue is that your body where they ride in needs to be quite accurate
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<azonenberg> glowplug`: where did the background come from?
<azonenberg> just double checking IP rights
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<Sync_> pressphoto, I'd say it's fine
<azonenberg> We're not using it for commentary on intel's chips though
<azonenberg> so fair use is more questionable
<azonenberg> I'm going to say no
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<Sync_> just looked through the press kit site, they have no disclaimers anywhere
<azonenberg> As a result, one would assume they still own the copyright
<azonenberg> And are not granting any rights other than use of it in commentary on *their* silicon
<azonenberg> i'd be fine with using it to talk about their stuff
<Sync_> huh
<azonenberg> But we're talking about ours
<Sync_> that's pretty constructed
<azonenberg> Copyright law defaults to the rights holder being the only one allowed to do anything with it
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<glowplug`> Andrew. Set the new logo!
<azonenberg> glowplug`: I was just talking with Sync_ about it
<azonenberg> I like it, but see if you can find a public domain wafer image to use
<azonenberg> last thing i want is the project a copyright complaint from intel
<glowplug`> No way!
<glowplug`> Do you think they would actually care?
<azonenberg> When you're a bug
<azonenberg> annoying a 500-pound gorilla is usually a bad idea
<azonenberg> I doubt they would, but i don't like taking chances when there are such easy alternatives
<glowplug`> The wiki doesn't even show up on google. Haha
<azonenberg> It hasnt been up long
<azonenberg> But we're going to start getting more attention eventually
<azonenberg> And i just don't want legal trouble on top of all of the technical challenges
<Sync_> well, they'd probably file a dcma notice if they'd really care
<azonenberg> They would
<azonenberg> And i'd just take it down and be fine
<Sync_> yean you'd remove it and everything is fine
<Sync_> yeah
<azonenberg> But a project logo is going to be all over the place
<azonenberg> it'd be a pain to change
<Sync_> that's true
<azonenberg> So for that especially i want to err on the side of caution
<azonenberg> if it was an internal page talking about intel's fab technology
<azonenberg> by all means do it
<azonenberg> Public domain, excellent
<Sync_> this one is quite dark
<azonenberg> glowplug`: can you rework the image based off that?
<azonenberg> change brightness, rotate, whatever
<azonenberg> but that one is declared public domain so we can do whatever we want with it
<glowplug`> I'll make a different one. 8)
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<glowplug`> That was strange.
<Sync_> The effort was plagued by a series of disasters, including floods which delayed the construction of the plant and later ruined the clean-room interior.
<Sync_> oops
<Sync_> don't do that :D
<glowplug`> I found another wafer picture that was on a wallpaper website. It was originally from a phenom II.
<glowplug`> Would that probably be fine?
<Sync_> if it does not say that it is public domain, probably no
<glowplug`> It was on some obscure free wallpaper page.
<azonenberg> Unless you can trace it to someone officially releasing it as PD (including sources), no
<glowplug`> What about am image under this license?
<azonenberg> Still a bit restrictive
<azonenberg> Why not the public domain one on wiki?
<glowplug`> Already got it. Uploading. =)
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<glowplug`> Here is the source image.
<azonenberg> CC-A-SA? Ok, that's fine for our needs
<glowplug`> Replaced both files. 8)
<glowplug`> Plus it's a mask! My kind of logo. Haha
<azonenberg> Lol
<azonenberg> I'm in the middle of something but will update the URL to use that page shortly
<azonenberg> that's good enough as a start
<glowplug`> Totally not intended to be an epic logo.
<glowplug`> Just to get the "put your logo here" thing. =)
<azonenberg> Lol yeah
<glowplug`> Also the wiki link from google code is broken. 8)
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<azonenberg> I fixed it
<azonenberg> or should have
<azonenberg> double check
<glowplug`> Works!
<glowplug`> No logo yet. =(
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<azonenberg> I know
<azonenberg> i havent copied it over yet
<azonenberg> will do later
<glowplug`> Haha. Its no rush. 8)
<glowplug`> I read some of your updates to the supplies section. Very cool stuff. =)
<glowplug`> We need a TON more info. Is there anyone else that can contribute to the wiki?
<azonenberg> Sync_ has an account but idk if he's used it yet
<azonenberg> Nobody else has asked for one
<azonenberg> i'll make them on request for anyone
<azonenberg> just keep it manual for now to avoid spam
<glowplug`> Agreed. There was someone from Singapore on here. I was trying to recruit him. Haha
<azonenberg> B0101?
<azonenberg> i forget how many zeros and ones
<glowplug`> Yeah. Haha
<nmz787_> wiki?
<azonenberg> nmz787_: in the topic
<azonenberg> public readable for for spam reasons i need to make an account for people to be able to edit
<azonenberg> but for*
<glowplug`> Off to bed. -_-
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<nmz787_> what's a measure of viscosity?
<azonenberg> not a clue
<azonenberg> i know there are standard units
<azonenberg> But have never needed to use them
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<Sync_> nmz787_: cst
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<Sync_> meh that was more expensive than I'd have liked
<glowplug> ?
<Sync_> bought a 1/1000mm resolving dti with 50mm travel
<glowplug> Ahh the more accurate instrumentation you mentioned.
<Sync_> yes
<Sync_> I have one of those: http://sync-hv.de/~tmp/extramess1.jpg
<Sync_> but it has only 1.6mm travel
<glowplug> Maybe I will get real tools some day. Haha
<Sync_> well that thing is 850€
<glowplug> Many real tools are. xD
<glowplug> Any progress on the steel leadscrews?
<Sync_> no
<Sync_> exam in two days
<Sync_> actually, I paid 80€ on it on ebay..
<Sync_> maybe I'll hit the steel dealers tomorrow
<glowplug> Awesome. =)
<Sync_> I *should* learn instead but oh so well
<glowplug> Absolutely not! Haha
<glowplug> The world needs you.
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<Sync_> ah well. it really seems we had a short in the vacuum :/
<glowplug> So now you can focus on whats really importat... the leadscrews? ;)
<Sync_> nah I'll learn tomorrow (hopefully)
<glowplug> A semiconductor fairy just died. =(
<Sync_> that's ok
<Sync_> I can make enough new ones at work
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