stebalien changed the topic of #ipfs to: Heads Up: To talk, you need to register your nick! Announcements: go-ipfs 0.4.18 and js-ipfs 0.34 are out! Get them from dist.ipfs.io and npm respectively! | Also: #libp2p #ipfs-cluster #filecoin #ipfs-dev | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | Logs: https://view.matrix.org/room/!yhqiEdqNjyPbxtUjzm:matrix.org/ | Forums: https://discuss.ipfs.io | Code of Con
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<se7en> What does this mean
<se7en> ipfs resolve -r /ipns/QmRmkky7qQBjCAU2gFUqfy3NXD7BPq8YVLPM7GHXBz7b5P/: dial attempt failed: failed to dial <peer.ID Qm*Bz7b5P> (default failure)
<se7en> I was trying to access a node via a pastebin of links
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<se7en> Does this mean it is incorrectly copied?
<se7en> All the files are loading extremely slow
<se7en> Maybe this is because I can only find 45 peers and have 19GB of data in upload
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<swills> can anyone help me with uploading something to a remote API node? i'm configuring things in ~/.ipfs/api
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<swills> trouble i'm having is the remote api i'm using, ipfs.infura.io:5001 is https instead of http and i don't know how to make it use https
<swills> https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/4336 -- following that...
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<swills> found https://github.com/ipfs/support/issues/54 not sure it's still relevant tho
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<swills> maybe someone knows a public API server
<postables[m]1> swills: we don't expose raw IPFS API's but have wrappers around them https://gateway.temporal.cloud/ipns/docs.api.temporal.cloud/ you can use the development api if you want
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<swills> can i point the go ipfs client at that?
<postables[m]1> nope you'd have to make http requests
<swills> i need to upload directories of stuff
<swills> and i don't want to write a bunch of stuff to upload, i can use the python ipfsapi stuff with infura if i want to do that
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<Fns[m]> @swedneck: Are you planning to update riot in your ipfs?
<Fns[m]> …please don't
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<Swedneck> why not?
<Fns[m]> @swedneck: Perhaps you're right, with ipfs there's always a way back (;
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<Fns[m]> @swedneck: I might be able to help in a little while — will be building riot for my co-workers, if we choose to stay on matrix.
<Swedneck> how about i make it a directory with both?
<Swedneck> alternatively i could set up riot-legacy.swedneck.xyz, with the old riot
<Swedneck> i wouldn't have to change the hash for that ever again, which is nice
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<TeeCee> Are you running riot on IPFS?
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<Swedneck> serving, riot is completely clientside
<Fns[m]> <Swedneck "alternatively i could set up rio"> That sounds nice. Although versions, as you have them now, should be enough too
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<Wioxjk> Hi! I just stumbled accross this https://blog.marmota.nefixestrada.com/posts/weekly-1/
<Wioxjk> I just thought the idea was interesting and cool, and I hope it really takes of the ground and just gets stuck in the idea-stage
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<swills> i'm getting this from ipfs upload: 16:56:27.806 ERROR  cmds/http: could not guess encoding from content type "text/html" parse.go:198
<swills> adding --debug doesn't help, how can i troubleshoot?
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<swills> setting IPFS_LOGGING=debug doesn't seem to give the info i need, i guess i will have to do some manual printf debugging...
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<shoku[m]> Nice
<shoku[m]> Filecoin and riot I mean
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<swills> HTTP/1.1 502 Bad Gateway\r
<swills> Server: awselb/2.0\r
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<swills> perhaps there's some way to limit the chunk size on upload...
<swills> of course, --chunker i guess
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<MikeFair> o/ Howdy all!
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<swills> of course, that gets me a HTTP/1.1 413 Request Entity Too Large from nginx now
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<MikeFair> Am I the only having problems reaching https://ipfs.io/
<swills> MikeFair: seems OK here
<MikeFair> okay, must be blocked for some reason
<stebalien> MikeFair: where do you live?
<stebalien> (i.e., which country are you in)
* MikeFair is using a library wifi connection and keeps getting connection reset problems.
<MikeFair> stebalien: Hey there! Los Angeles, California, United States
<MikeFair> Just tried from a remote computer and it is fine
<MikeFair> I'm not having any problems with other sites; just the ipfs.io domain for some reason
<stebalien> Ah. Ok, yeah, the library might block all of ipfs.io. FYI: https://ipfs.github.io/public-gateway-checker/
<MikeFair> I was trying to rad up on the discuss.ipfs.io pages about any recent IPNS changes or developments
<stebalien> Ah, yeah, that's why running an IPFS gateway on one's primary domain is maybe not the best idea...
<MikeFair> Eight of those are green checks ;)
<swills> so i'm screwed
<MikeFair> swills: depending on what you're trying to do there are plenty of file archivers that can break a file up into 100MB chunks
<swills> MikeFair: i need to be able to fetch the complete file from ipfs... :/
<MikeFair> Well I wouldn't want to violate the spirit of the file size limitation
<swills> i have no idea what you mean
<Mikaela> Why are libraries blocking IPFS gateways? Do they get flagged for hosting questionable content or something?
<MikeFair> stebalien: I'm looking forward to implementing some namespace stuff via IPNS that could perhaps help with those kind of proxy issues
<MikeFair> No idea
<MikeFair> Most likely so they don't get sucked into Bittorrent file sharing fiascos
<Mikaela> Would ESNI fix it with e.g. https://cloudflare-ipfs.com/ ?
<swills> i guess what i need is impossible, a public writable ipfs api which allows files up to 1gb
<MikeFair> Mikaela: I don't think so; because the problem seems to be with the Domain name itself
<MikeFair> swills: Not sure what you mean; fire up a VPS server and host it?
<Mikaela> :(
<MikeFair> swills: Or do you mean you want someone else to pay for your disk storage and availability?
<swills> MikeFair: yeah, i kinda do, but i get why that's not goign to happen... :)
<MikeFair> Mikaela: If I understand that service properly it serves out the content from IPFS using my domain name
<stebalien> MikeFair: I've heard there's a lot of "anime".
<MikeFair> swills: Your own VPS that will give you the CID for a 1GB file can be served from many proxy gateways
<Mikaela> MikeFair, I think they also support that, but I generally use them as a public gateway to use their CDN and I don't know if ipfs.io has any overuse problems.
<MikeFair> Mikaela: I couldn't see how to try to access ipfs.io using the link you provided
<swills> MikeFair: my use case is things i'm generating on a throw away cloud node, so i don't want to keep the node running to host the files...
<Mikaela> MikeFair, https://cloudflare-dns.com/ipns/ipfs.io/ should work, I think
<swills> ie, i spin up the VM, generate a bunch of files, about 1-2gb worth, some files under 100mb, some closer to 800mb, etc. and i want others to be able to grab them via ipfs, without me having to keep the VM running after they've generated
<MikeFair> Mikaela: Hmm, apparently not; keeps dropping the /ipns/ipfs.io/ and redirects back to the main domain
<MikeFair> swills: Ahh yeah; that's kind of a different problem; ipfs sucks at "hosting files" but it's great at distributing them
<Mikaela> weird, it works for me on Falkon
<MikeFair> Maybe because I'm not using it as a DNS server; the page keeps wanting me to change my DNS resolvers
<Mikaela> MikeFair, sorry, https://cloudflare-ipfs.com/ipns/ipfs.io/ for some reason I keep confusing those two services all the time :(
<MikeFair> swills: What about serving them out from a home based machine
<MikeFair> Mikaela: that worked :)
<MikeFair> Doesn't help me get to the discuss.ipfs.io pages; but at least i can hit an IPFS gateway
<MikeFair> stebalien: what features seem to be occupying folks attention atm? Obviously I'm interested in the IPNS stuff for a bunch of different use cases; but am definitely curious about what else folks on the project are currently pursuing
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<MikeFair> It seems IPFS is gaining a lot of positive attention these days (congrats)
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<swills> MikeFair: yeah, might have to do that
<MikeFair> swills: You'd probably be interested in my web proxy storage engine idea/project; it uses HTTP web servers as the backend file hosts for CID blocks
<swills> MikeFair: trouble is figuring out how to make the server available to the cloud VMs without making it available to the world...
<swills> MikeFair: go on... :)
<MikeFair> swills: The idea is there are tons and tons of inexpensive web hosting accounts out here with tons and tons of disk space
<MikeFair> swills: That's easy, use a firewall to only allow the cloud VM IPs to connect ot your home host
<jacky> I'm still trying to figure out how to emulate/do REST operations using IPFS paths
* jacky is thinking it's impossible
<jacky> (impossible-ish)
<MikeFair> jacky: You can't, but you can fake it with PubSub and IPLD
<swills> MikeFair: don't really want to modify firewall rules every time i spin up a VM
<jacky> so many IP** lol
<MikeFair> OH, in that case, what about an SSH based VPN?
<MikeFair> jacky: Well REST to me implies JSON (which isn't strictly true)
<MikeFair> so IPLD kind of does the whole JSON object hierarchy navigation thing a bit better than straight IPFS
<MikeFair> IMHO
<jacky> oh yeah this isn't JSON, more like form data
<jacky> (but this implies non-static-y content)
<MikeFair> But how are you representing it?
<MikeFair> (when I query the REST endpoint, what do Iget in my client? usually it's a JSON object)
<jacky> I'm looking to implement Webmentions https://webmention.rocks/ over IPFS (if that helps with context)
<jacky> largely sending form data (non-JSON; more "old-school" stuff) to let remote servers handle it
<jacky> an example of use: https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/0957009f-3fd1-45d6-977d-e5795e6715ef receiving Webmention (as likes) from http://brid.gy/ (brid.gy converts Twitter likes into open Web formats)
<Swedneck> <freenode_swi "i guess what i need is impossibl"> this isn't that farfetched
<MikeFair> jacky: Well IPFS is "receive only"; so you'd publish the data, get a CID, and upload the CID to a server
<Swedneck> i mean i think temporal.ai is going to allow that much free pinning
<MikeFair> jacky: or you use PubSub to send data to other servers for them to process
<jacky> I think pubsub might work here then
<MikeFair> jacky: or you might be able to use IPNS updates to trigger data refreshes
<MikeFair> jacky: But I think what you want is something more like PubSub
<jacky> going to deep dive into `ipfs pubusub` then - thanks!
<jacky> if I can add indieweb sites into the ipfs landscapes; I'd probably just push everything over ipfs first then to the 'classical' Web
<MikeFair> IPFS doesn't have the concept of PUT or POST to a CID directly
<jacky> that's fine, I can mask that as part of the payload
<jacky> that's what we do with `DELETE` and `PATCH` anyway lol
<MikeFair> You can certainly serve the forms out via IPFS; but the form can't submit back
<MikeFair> You can have the form upload the content directly to IPFS straight from the form page; then PubSub or IPNS update something to signal your backend server to process the data
<jacky> that sounds like a reasonable plan
<jacky> I'll try it out!
<jacky> thanks MikeFair
<MikeFair> jacky: Good luck; I've been trying to envision how to create a simple "subscribe to our newsletter" signup form on an IPFS bsaed web page; and those are the only ideas I've come up with so far to get the feedback from the IPFS served pages back to the backend
<MikeFair> hehe - I've actually been going so far as to start sugesting we looking into "HTTP Over PubSub" to get decentralized bots to coordinate processing the information and responses
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<MikeFair> swills: Back on the web page file hosting idea; basically think of an IPFS gateway, where instead of storing the CID blocks on its own hard drive, it HTTP fetches them from a remote hosting site
<MikeFair> swills: Web hosting servers offering tons of disk space are super inexpensive; it's totally conceivable that you could just request CIDs directly via HTTP with the IPFS swarm goodness
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<jacky> tbh it'd be a really way to bring more 'dynamic' information into the IPFS landscape
<jacky> granted this is ignoring the 'F' bit of IPFS
<MikeFair> If the server had it, you get a 200 OK response and the block file; otherwise you get a 404
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<MikeFair> swills: But the basic idea is using web servers as block file hosts where you can't run an IPFS daemon; then IPFS Gateways use those web servers as their file cache repos
<jacky> (apologies if I'm asking something that's like visible outside of IRC)
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<MikeFair> jacky: Totally, most of the stuff I want to do requires more dynamic comment
<jacky> how come so much stuff is experimental? what makes it so?
<MikeFair> err content
<MikeFair> jacky: IPFS is young and decentralized, swarm based, communications protocols can be, well, easy to do very wrong
<MikeFair> IPFS is great at being a CDN like service where it is just pushing out static content; it's not a two way communication, it's one way
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<MikeFair> jacky: You never know what server you are actually going to get any part of your data from
<MikeFair> You only know what data you are requesting, and can validate whether or not you actually got what you asked for
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<MikeFair> Even with PubSub, everything subscribed to the channel id gets the message; you aren't talking to one thing
<jacky> that's fine (enough for me) since what I'm doing; the topic's should be very distinct (enough)
<MikeFair> This model of working with the internet is quite experimental overall
<jacky> but yeah, re: youth; that makes sense, only way to stabilize it is to dogfood and use it daily
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<MikeFair> I have this concept/idea that an IPNS address can be used to create an "IPFS Service" that IPFS node can participate in executing
<MikeFair> that would create a more "two way" type of interacting with IPFS CID based objects
<swills> MikeFair: if i could point ipfs at an S3 backend, that would be cool... :)
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<MikeFair> swills: Yeah, similar concept to what I'm desribing
<swills> makes me actually wonder if i can accomplish my goal with some S3 like thing
<MikeFair> There's a super ugly proof of concept
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<MikeFair> The idea is using CRON and a bunch of other websites that are running a similar kind of script; the block files can be distributed around the web
<swills> "the web" is like "the cloud" -- it doesn't exist. it's just "someone elses computer(s)"
<swills> :)
<MikeFair> Yes, but the difference is that someone else's computer is "really cheap file hosting"
<MikeFair> For example, imagine every WordPress site was running the IPFS BlockFile Hosting plugin
<MikeFair> What's different between what I'm proposing and IPFS itself, is IPFS takes care of content delivery, but not really storage
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<MikeFair> This idea is solving exactly the opposite problem
<jacky> > .cgi
<jacky> good ol days
<MikeFair> jacky: hehe, yeah, I'm kind of an old school webdev guy
<MikeFair> I am used to an internet before "google", before "Alta Vista", when "Netscape" was the only browser worth discussing
<MikeFair> :-)
<MikeFair> Back when websites would actually manually link to each other to form "webs" or "rings"
<MikeFair> That's kind of where the inspiration for this project came from; if websites could discover and exchange CID blocks with each other; that wold help alleviate many folks "But I don't have a hosting server" problem
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<jacky> I only remember the web right at alta vista
<jacky> MikeFair: funny you mention that
<jacky> the indieweb has one running https://xn--sr8hvo.ws/
<jacky> they're looking it to make it more common place (again)
<jacky> but exactly MikeFair; it's more communal and discovery is on people's willingess to share
<jacky> (in this age, they share everything and anything lol)
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<MikeFair> jacky: that IndieWeb ring looks great for what I'm talking about!
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* swills mumbles something about Mosaic
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<MikeFair> swills: Awesome!! "Gopher, but with pictures!"
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<swills> yeah, gopher was better...
<swills> gopher was basically "BBSs for the internet"
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<MikeFair> Actually.... I wonder.... Would the Gopher protocol over IPFS work as a kind of REST replacement....
<MikeFair> What I recall was Gopher as designed for more menu driven and hierarchy based infotrees
<MikeFair> NOpe, nm, seems to be now way to "upload" from within the Gopher protocol itself
<MikeFair> err now = no
<MikeFair> Though if we can make IPNS/PubSub based "Services" work; I'd put it forward as a candidate for a "tcpmux" service which is assigned port 1 by IANA
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<Kolonka[m]> >Back when websites would actually manually link to each other to form "webs" or "rings"
<Kolonka[m]> I've been wanting to set something like this up between friends for a while, though as of yet I'm the only one to do so
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<postables[m]> @swills: I told you about my API yesterday, 1gb max upload, probably would've been using IPFS by now instead of wrastling with errors 😜
<swills> postables[m]: i thought you said it wasn't publicly writable?
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<MikeFair> swills: Apparently you can put Amazon Cloudfront in front of Amazon S3....
<swills> MikeFair: true
<MikeFair> It seems to me that the service you're looking to construct is really a static website
<MikeFair> VPS spins up; pushes up a bunch of new files; then shuts down
<MikeFair> swills: With that as a comparison, what is using IPFS really getting you that a CDN delivered static website wouldn't?
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<swills> MikeFair: free :)
<swills> for example, i get to use cloudflare via cloudflare-ipfs.com for free
<MikeFair> swills: But persistent internet disk space is not free
<swills> true, but i only need it to stay for a while, and infura seemed to be persistent enough for me
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<MikeFair> swills: Seems like S3 + Cloudfront would do that for you at no cost
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<swills> oh? hmmm, i will look