stebalien changed the topic of #ipfs to: Heads Up: To talk, you need to register your nick! Announcements: go-ipfs 0.5.1 and js-ipfs 0.43.1 are out! Get them from dist.ipfs.io and npm respectively! | Also: #libp2p #ipfs-cluster #filecoin #ipfs-dev | IPFS: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | Logs: https://view.matrix.org/room/!yhqiEdqNjyPbxtUjzm:matrix.org/ | Forums: https://discuss.ipfs.io | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0
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<JCaesar>
<RubenKelevra[m] "ˈt͡sɛːzaɐ̯: what exactly was you"> Sorry, my synapse was down for a while…
<JCaesar>
Not all that elegant. :/
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<RubenKelevra[m]>
Since we use the same source, the CID in the end should always be the same. So both cluster nodes should end up with the same CID when they sync at the same time from the mirror.
<RubenKelevra[m]>
Sure, there would be some checks needed, that if the CID isn't in sync on both mirrors for a long time, we need to investigate. This could be done by releasing the latest CID on a IPNS for just one server. A script could look at both records and check if they are matching at least at some points in time. If there's no match for like 2 hours, we really need to look into that.
<JCaesar>
RubenKelevra: Hm. The writes being the same everywhere… can you be sure about that? The upstream server may be updated in the meantime.
<JCaesar>
Hm. I guess as long as the node that did the last update (and has the folder structure and files) doesn't go down immediately after, that's fine. And if it does go down, you just run an update on another node.
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<DenseCometDisco4>
can the ipfs browser extension handle embedded ipfs:// urls? I installed the extension and set up my own node, but the embeded image on this page does not function
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<RubenKelevra[m]>
<JCaesar "RubenKelevra: Hm. The writes bei"> No, nothing is "sure", but worst case is that the update of one node still holds some outdated packages, while the other node does not.
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<RubenKelevra[m]>
So the really worst case is, that one node publishes an older state over a newer state, since the runtimes of both updates were vastly different.
<RubenKelevra[m]>
But this can be avoided by adding the "lastupdate" file to the mirror and check it before pushing a new version.
<RubenKelevra[m]>
<JCaesar "Hm. I guess as long as the node "> Well, all writes go to the cluster. So the replication is already established before I publish the new CID on the IPNS.
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<JCaesar>
rubenkelevra: I mean, I have no idea what kind of leader election ipfs-cluster does, but if it's like zookeeper, you can be rather certain that there's only ever one leader. So if you don't want to invite this kind of overwrite problem, you could base on that.
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<JCaesar>
Btw, you said a key can't be published to by several nodes... but what if you just pretend its the same node? like "oha, I've been elected new leader, better start up from this IPFS_PATH that we all have a copy of but that may only run once at the same time - it contains the publishing key"
<JCaesar>
* Btw, you said a key can't be published to by several nodes... but what if you just pretend its the same node? like "oha, I've been elected new leader, better start up (a secondary node) from this IPFS_PATH that we all have a copy of but that may only run once at the same time - it contains the publishing key"
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<RubenKelevra[m]>
This doesn't work. IPNS publish do have a version counter. The version need to be higher on a newer publish.
<RubenKelevra[m]>
Read the ticket please.
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<RubenKelevra[m]>
<JCaesar "rubenkelevra: I mean, I have no "> As I said, there is no leader election. There is no leading node. It's based on a tree with eventually consistency. This way hundreds of nodes can do concurrent writes (in theory) without having to talk to one "leader" which organizes the writes.
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<JCaesar>
I'm not suggesting to organize the writes. I'm suggesting to organize the name publishing. I don't think you want 100s of nodes having control of that name.
<JCaesar>
Anyway, it seems I can't give you any new ideas on this one.
<RubenKelevra[m]>
ˈt͡sɛːzaɐ̯: don't get me wrong, this wasn't meant to be discouraging. I like your input! I just went through this thoughts already :)
<RubenKelevra[m]>
yes I like to have some build-in IPNS function in the cluster and it could be done theoretical: Just let the cluster auto publish the last write with a certain name to an IPNS.
<RubenKelevra[m]>
But concurrent publishes to IPNS need to be fixed first.
<RubenKelevra[m]>
* yes I like to have some build-in IPNS function in the cluster and it could be done theoretical: Just let the cluster auto publish the last write with a certain name to an IPNS.
<RubenKelevra[m]>
But concurrent publishes to IPNS in IPFS need to be fixed first.
<RubenKelevra[m]>
stebalien: I just used noise between two nodes and my pin add stalled after 180k entries... I did the same thing with TLS and it worked fine.
<RubenKelevra[m]>
*might* be a fluke, but maybe there's an issue with stability of noise connections or the way the noise transport detects broken connections?
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<stebalien>
> stebalien: I just used noise between two nodes and my pin add stalled after 180k entries... I did the same thing with TLS and it worked fine.
<stebalien>
> *might* be a fluke, but maybe there's an issue with stability of noise connections or the way the noise transport detects broken connections?
<stebalien>
We detect broken connections at the tcp and stream mixer layers. Unless there's a deadlock, noise shouldn't be related. Were the nodes connected after the stall?
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<will-rDiscord[m4>
Am I right in thinking that you can only init and inject plugins once per session when using go-ipfs as a library, even when the repo and node have been closed after use?
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<chrismoos[m]>
will pinning content on multiple daemons improve responsiveness (faster DHT propagation) and improve reliability?
<chrismoos[m]>
I find when doing `ipfs add` with a directory recursively, some content is immediately available with `dht findprovs`, but other isn't, and takes a while to propagate
<chrismoos[m]>
for reference, i'm testing running a site off of ipfs, using cloudflare's gateway via dnslink: https://ipfs.chrismoos.com/
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<chrismoos[m]>
also, it doesn't help that the CloudFlare gateway seems to be pretty unreliable (at least compared to ipfs.io)
<swedneck1>
i wonder if cloudflare would give a toss if people emailed them about their gateway being shit
<swedneck1>
so much for them embracing decentralization lol
<chrismoos[m]>
Swedneck: yeah, maybe it would help. i'm new to IPFS but seems like they (CF) have been pretty active with it. but from my limited testing ipfs.io seems to be the better gateway
<chrismoos[m]>
main reason I chose CF was the SSL support with a dnslink ipfs site (when CNAME'ing to them)
<swedneck[GMT1]D4>
yeah the SSL thing is really good
<swedneck[GMT1]D4>
but their gateway just straight up doesn't work properly
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<chrismoos[m]>
I wonder if there is any IPv6 related issues, as in, my daemon that pins my content is dual stack...I wonder if some IPv6 connectivity issue happens, MTU or something
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<chrismoos[m]>
guess I could try to just advertise IPv4 over daemon and see if it helps..or ipv6 is completely unrelated ;)
<chrismoos[m]>
and the gateway does just suck
<swedneck[GMT1]D4>
the gateway does just suck
<swedneck[GMT1]D4>
i'm pretty sure they run an ancient version of ipfs
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<voker57>
and they monkey-patched it not to serve any kind of video
<voker57>
so it's mostly useful for hello world websites basically