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07:14 <kares> enebo: think we should push AR-JDBC 5X ... there's plenty of fixes in the 5X branches, objections?

15:33 <enebo> kares: no that is a great idea

15:33 <enebo> kares: I have a question for you which is unrelated to this but related to pg vs arjdbc

15:34 <kares> enebo: heya! hit me

15:34 <enebo> kares: just grabbing a link

15:35 <enebo> https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/master/lib/sql_builder.rb#L79

15:37 <enebo> not fully sure I know enough to ask the right question here but they are leveraging some decoding and updating AR type maps

15:37 <enebo> I think not just discourse does this but apps which need new types so as well?

15:38 <enebo> I don't really want to clone ruby portions of PG to support this necessarily but how do we handle stuff like this (and I am not expecting an immediate answer just bringing this up as a broader question)

15:39 <kares> ooh, well I haven't seen any other Rails app do such a thing

15:39 <kares> this seems quite ugly but I guess they do have a reason ...

15:40 <kares> most of the time they're happy with the adapter as is and if not they change type returns using AR API

15:40 <enebo> kares: if you are using AR and you have to use the native api beneath it you are working around something so I agree on that

15:41 <kares> enebo: I think what they did at some point - specifically at Discourse - was avoding the AR APIs for queries

15:41 <enebo> kares: I don't fully grok why they are even doing this? Does timestamp not return a DateTime?

15:41 <kares> pretty much avoiding AREL since it was slow for them

15:41 <kares> yeah me neither - I think they tried some optimizations

15:41 <kares> it really seems so ...

15:42 <kares> enebo: and maybe its a dead thing: https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/master/lib/sql_builder.rb#L5

15:42 <enebo> kares: huzzah for discourse at least. Maybe we will never see this then on other gems

15:43 <kares> enebo: yeah I haven't seen it

15:43 <enebo> kares: I thought I saw some other app plug some new type into pg for something AR didn't support

15:43 <enebo> kares: but I don't remember what it was

15:43 <enebo> and it may not have been this specifically

15:43 <kares> right, I know you can do that with PG

15:43 <kares> and I've seen it on sequel or so

15:43 <enebo> I just remember adding a new type to postgres in a rails app

15:44 <enebo> seeing it somewhere

15:44 <kares> but not much with AR since they do it and are opinionated about it working in a way

15:44 <kares> enebo: maybe it was a work-around for AR types

15:44 <kares> they took several releases to get all right

15:44 <enebo> anyuways I may sleuth and see if I can find that but knowing discourse probably does not use this removes the immediate question

15:45 <kares> there were some extension gems around to support what wasn't supported at some point

15:45 <enebo> kares: yeah I was wondering if I was thinking of a GIS gem

15:45 <kares> +1

15:45 <kares> was thinking about the PG geo types gem as well

15:45 <kares> that's a separate adapter

15:46 <kares> which does not work on JRuby

15:46 <enebo> kares: my brain keeps thinking it is geo stuff but that is such an obvious answer my mind may be making it up :P

15:47 <kares> my mind constantly makes up things - it seems to have a life of its own :)

15:47 <kares> and also my memories are no longer deterministic

15:47 <kares> anyway so we should get AR-JDBC out next week

15:48 <kares> and maybe even jossl with the updated BC and some small fixes

15:48 <enebo> kares: sounds good. you willing to do arjdbc releases?

15:49 <enebo> kares: hell we could even 6.0.0.beta2 by the looks of it :)

15:49 <kares> think I did the last but I am happy to give you the torch if you're up to it ;)

15:49 <enebo> kares: yeah I can do it too

15:49 <enebo> at least I think I can. My last go around I think it took a while to figure out what to set

15:49 <kares> beta2 isn't that crucial - since that gem is only usable with AR 6.0.0.beta2

15:50 <enebo> yeah I agree. I am just happy it is good to go

15:50 <kares> users can always use github: ... bundler refs

15:50 <kares> yeah it looks like such a nice work

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