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<rwilliams[m]>
Can any of your recommend a remote pair programming tool? We used to use screenhero until Slack bought it and ruined it. I was thinking of just sharing screens in discrod but remote keyboard/mouse control would be very nice.
<rwilliams[m]>
* Can any of your recommend a remote pair programming tool? We used to use screenhero until Slack bought it and ruined it. I was thinking of just sharing screens in discord but remote keyboard/mouse control would be very nice.
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<rdubya[m]>
I've seen blurbs about this one for a bit but I haven't had a reason to use it yet: https://tuple.app/
<rdubya[m]>
it's also mac only
<rwilliams[m]>
It's only mac app?
<rwilliams[m]>
oh
<rwilliams[m]>
yeah it's on the description
<rwilliams[m]>
None of my team has macs except me and I work on windows (WSL) and linux
<rwilliams[m]>
mostly
<headius[m]>
g'day
<rwilliams[m]>
Howdy
<headius[m]>
g'day
<headius[m]>
oops thanks riot
<rwilliams[m]>
has
<rwilliams[m]>
oof
<rwilliams[m]>
ha
<rwilliams[m]>
headius: do you have any recommendations on pair programming/screen sharing software. I know there are quite a few good web based ones but I don't really know where to start
<headius[m]>
hmm yeah I really don't other than typical video chat apps that have screensharing features like skype or google hangouts (or whatever it's called now)
<headius[m]>
the person I need to pair with most often is enebo and I can just drive over to his house 😀
<rwilliams[m]>
ha
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<enebo[m]>
I also have a 34" monitor
<rwilliams[m]>
I wonder in the web based VS code has pair programming features
<headius[m]>
I wouldn't be surprised
<headius[m]>
I did try to use Netbeans pair programming features once and it sorta worked
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<headius[m]>
enebo: I have been contemplating another style of call site that would be more code but possibly comparable to indy without being indy
<headius[m]>
basically just emitting call site logic directly into the compiled script .class that can dispatch to a specific DynamicMethod directly... for cases where arity matches and it goes straight through it would profile as a direct call
<headius[m]>
it might be a path forward for making native AOT peak perf more reliable, since those sites could profile better
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<enebo[m]>
yeah I have wondered about this very thing while refactoring
<enebo[m]>
I assumed main reason was bytecode diet
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<headius[m]>
yeah it would be a big chunk of code for each site
<headius[m]>
there's no easy way to get the JVM to inline and specialize the call site logic in each place though
<enebo[m]>
yeah
<headius[m]>
really the amount of code generated probably would be comparable to indy, but indy can cheat and force inlining
<headius[m]>
in the context of a native compile it might boil down better
<enebo[m]>
largely it just means forcing inlining 100% but without making types associated with handles
<enebo[m]>
so more code but less types
<headius[m]>
yeah
<lopex>
and more numbers
<headius[m]>
numbers!
<lopex>
it seems that the perf competition between jvn vendors somewhat vanished
<lopex>
is it that everyone has hit the ceiling ?
<headius[m]>
yeah hard to say... Azul and OpenJ9 are both still evolving
<lopex>
or there is no money in the busibess ?
<headius[m]>
I don't know if shops are really willing to pay for closed-source runtimes
<lopex>
so the greatest contenters are azul, hotspot still and azul ?
<headius[m]>
they have their new Falcon JIT
<lopex>
er I meant graal for the third
<lopex>
azul ?
<headius[m]>
yeah graal
<headius[m]>
Azul's new JIT is called Falcon, and it's based on LLVM
<lopex>
ah zing
<headius[m]>
yeah in Zing
<headius[m]>
next couple years will be interesting
<lopex>
bit since ages gralljs and V8 were on par so I kinda thought they hit the limit
<lopex>
for such different techs
<lopex>
headius[m]: though zing seem to pursue parallelism and vectorization on their vm
<lopex>
not exactly suited for other uses
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