18:26 <nickynamy> hi, i have some trouble booting libreelec 9.2.3 on my raspberry pi 1 B. It just gets stuck on boot. I also tried the current master but the boot screen gave me the message from https://github.com/LibreELEC/LibreELEC.tv/pull/3356

18:26 <nickynamy> Did anyone else experince this problem?

18:27 <nickynamy> my boot process never reached network state. actually all subsequent targets failed too

18:30 <pragmaticenigma> nickynamy: have you verified the SD Card has not failed?

18:31 <nickynamy> I have flashed it several times with newly built images... I guess the hw wear leveling should have taken care of problems....

18:31 <pragmaticenigma> nickynamy: that's not what I asked... I asked did you verify the card is not failing... that is not the same thing as "I was able to flash the card"

18:32 <nickynamy> and how would i do that? compare bytewise?

18:32 <pragmaticenigma> nickynamy: The easiest to me is to try a different SD Card

18:33 <pragmaticenigma> the next easiest... try the troubled SD card in a different RPi

18:33 <nickynamy> i'll try that

18:37 <pragmaticenigma> if using a new SD card fixes the issue, then the old SD card is leaning towards failure. If using a different RPi with the troubled card works, then I'd lean toward the other RPi starting to or is failing

18:38 <nickynamy> Well I guess it's my oldest sd card so failure might be possible

18:38 <pragmaticenigma> SD Cards are virtually limitless when it comes to reads, you won't detect anything with a byte check. It's going to be a fault at the hardware level that would require special tools to figure out

18:38 <nickynamy> unfortunate :(

18:58 <nickynamy> pragmaticenigma: Ok, I have tried a master branch build on a different card but the problem persists. I'll check out the 9.2.3 build

19:00 <nickynamy> https://imgur.com/a/YBek9SP

19:01 <nickynamy> That's the exact msg log on boot.

19:29 <pragmaticenigma> nickynamy: does it boot if you use the pre-built images?

19:29 <nickynamy> that will be the next step :)

19:43 <nickynamy> pragmaticenigma: Now I have used the prebuilt images and it boots indeed. I have no clue why...

19:43 <nickynamy> I built exactly the tag that was labeled 9.2.3

19:43 <pragmaticenigma> but was that targetted at the correct RPi ARM version? 1B has a very different chip from the 2 & 3

19:44 <nickynamy> I used this line to build: PROJECT=RPi DEVICE=RPi ARCH=arm make -j16 image

19:45 <pragmaticenigma> unfortunatly I'm just a consumer of the pre-builts... I haven't tried to build mine manually. Haven't seen a reason to

19:46 <nickynamy> I just didn't like that the prebuilts are delivered "unverifyable"

19:46 <nickynamy> Seems as if that had been discussed several times in the forums

19:48 <nickynamy> maybe I mount both images and compare them bytewise

19:50 <pragmaticenigma> If someone is really that curious about what I'm doing with my LibreElec instance... well... that's on them. Though through all my network monitoring I don't see any unusual traffic that I find concerning from my two instances

20:10 <nickynamy> it's a matter of principle. I like to know that software running on my devices is not sent completely unprotected through the internet. It's not that I don't trust the devs, I don't trust all internet nodes to be benevolent. Especially when I start entering my passwords for all sorts of services in my kodi instance

20:15 <pragmaticenigma> not worth the time or effort. Good password management protects passwords, all of mine are uniquely generated by a password manager, so if one database gets compromised, or someone manages to break through the HTTPS connection, I don't have to worry about it. Second, I don't use my primary e-mail account for any of my entertainment accounts. There is greater risk in the plugins than there is with KODI

20:19 <nickynamy> The plugin security is much more worrysome, indeed :/

20:23 <nickynamy> But I guess what you describe is more of "impact mitigation" than "attack vector protection".

20:25 <nickynamy> In fact the libreelec download seemingly has no https protection. So the "net" is free to tinker with the transmitted data

20:25 <pragmaticenigma> I live by the belief the Internet is no different than standing in the middle of a city park or grocery store. You can kind of hide, but someone somewhere can see you and what you are doing. So better the vary what you tell others whilst in that park, than telling everyone the same thing