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<ZetaNeta> There is linux-sunxi, linux-rockchip, linux-omap, linux-.... Is there anything about MediaTek?
<ZetaNeta> As i am wondering what target i should get to crossdev, to get a toolchain for MTK6572
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<wens> ZetaNeta: mediatek's policy towards open source is, shall we say, very conservative
<ZetaNeta> wens, Well, people still do port cyanogen and linuxes there :)
<wens> ZetaNeta: yes, but mediatek does not provide documentation or source beyond what is required of them by contract/license
<ZetaNeta> wens, I understand, but its still usable :)
<ZetaNeta> I love Allwinner, but i am not waiting 1000 years before first smartphone on AW appears :D
<ZetaNeta> So, the question was: Where can i ask about compiling a toolchain for MTK6572
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<wens> afaik there's no community
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<wens> you could ask Matthias Brugger, who's working on mt6589
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<ZetaNeta> wens, Most popular "chinaphone" SoC producer doesnt have a large community?
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<wens> ZetaNeta: not popular with devs...
<wens> you dont see any mediatek dev boards, do you?
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<ZetaNeta> wens, I think there are no devboards, because there are too many phones, in all configurations :)
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<libv> ZetaNeta: to what extent is linux-sunxi _not_ about devboards?
<wens> libv: he's referring to mediatek
<wens> ZetaNeta: anyway, what i heard was they will upstream whatever drivers for mt81xx tablet socs
<wens> but probably not the phone socs
<libv> wens: i know
<libv> but look how far _we_ are with tablets and such
<libv> and how we have no real a23/a31 support
<libv> if we cannot even manage that, why whine about mediatek lacking a community?
<libv> and why whine anyway, go do something about it if you really care that much
<ZetaNeta> Eh... i have to get gentoo on a MediaTek, and now also a AmLogic, model of which stays unknown to me
<ZetaNeta> nice
<wens> unless you're a customer, there's pretty much nothing you can do :(
<ZetaNeta> wens, I am the customer of their customer.
<wens> ZetaNeta: well then you should push your vendor :)
<ZetaNeta> wens, Why? There is quite much i can do, but i need to understand what toolchain i need
<ZetaNeta> I can just get a linaro toolchain, but i want to crossdev a nice toolchain
<wens> i was referring to getting them to open up
<wens> of course you can what you have and work with it :)
<ZetaNeta> wens, I got the kernel sources. If i have the kernel sources, my experience says that i can do pretty much alot
<libv> bootloader?
<wens> heard it was little kernel
<ZetaNeta> libv, Whatever the bootloader is there, it should load my kernel in any case. But i guess i can find the bootloader if needed
<wens> a bit more work/hacks might be required if the bootloader doesn't do DT
<ZetaNeta> wens, A bit more doesnt mean alot :)
<ZetaNeta> wens, If that is what i think it is, then this bootloader reminds me of LAB
<wens> i have no idea what it is, a friend at mediatek just gave me that link
<ssvb> ZetaNeta: a generic arm toolchain is fine for any arm device
<ssvb> ZetaNeta: there is nothing SoC dependent in the toolchain
<wens> mripard_: i seem to have lost my sun6i watchdog patches :(
<ZetaNeta> ssvb, I didnt mean soc dependent
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<ssvb> ZetaNeta: what is "a toolchain for MTK6572" supposed to mean?
<JohnDoe_71Rus> interested in setting tv-out script.vin. http://www.cubieforums.com/index.php/topic,3015.msg19833.html Or is it absolutely another?
<ZetaNeta> ssvb, I just didnt crosscompile anything for quite a while
<libv> somehow that openwrt question sounds like it should be directed at openwrt
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<libv> ah great, phoenixsuit does not work from windows xp, but user report that it works from newer versions
<libv> this shit is really fucked.
<wens> careful, it might not work on windows 8 :p
<libv> yes, only windows 7 apparently
<libv> how broken is that
<libv> all i know about the linux version is that it works on "ubuntu"
<libv> but that is bound to be a very specific ubuntu version
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<libv> heh, ubuntu 14.4...
<libv> now let's see whether i can get that live on my eeepc
<bonbons> libv: hope you have running 3D acceleration on the eeepc, otherwise ubuntu with unity will be a real patience fight!
<libv> and we wonder why the linux desktop is dead?
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<paulk-aldrin> hi there, I stopped working on sunxi a bit after my Ampe A76 failed to boot sunxi-3.4
<paulk-aldrin> however, it looks like a stack corruption as the problem happens at the return instruction
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<paulk-aldrin> I get: <0>Stack: (0xdf827e30 to 0xdf828000)
<paulk-aldrin> and SP: 0xdf827db0:
<paulk-aldrin> which is not in the range
<paulk-aldrin> that's only a 464 byte-long stack though
<paulk-aldrin> ah no, that's just the part it prints out
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<libv> paulk-aldrin: something returned -2, and it was used as a pointer
<libv> investigate why it says this, and what happens after that: "wrong Rb connect Mode, chip = 255 ,RbConnectMode = 1 "
<paulk-aldrin> it seems like the return instruction makes it oops
<paulk-aldrin> (it doesn't print "after _write_signle_page" but prints "before return")
<paulk-aldrin> adding an infinite loop before return doesn't make it oops, so it's likely not an interrupt
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<libv> return is where lr is loaded into ip
<libv> so lr got clobbered
<paulk-aldrin> right
<paulk-aldrin> ip is pc on ARM, correct?
<libv> oh, not sure anymore which is which on arm
<libv> lr is arm, that i am sure of
<paulk-aldrin> yes
<libv> oh, pc it is
<paulk-aldrin> would inline ASM work in the kernel? (I never tried it)
<libv> definitely
<paulk-aldrin> to print lr before return
<paulk-aldrin> ok
<libv> but before you do
<libv> check why it complains about the wrong rb connect mode
<libv> oh, that's before the single page write
<libv> err, during
<libv> it's a clear hint of something going wrong, and the error path is probably bogus
<paulk-aldrin> durring apparently
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<paulk-aldrin> libv, buffer overflow
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<paulk-aldrin> libv, it works now
<paulk-aldrin> well, it enumerates
<hramrach> ZetaNeta: would be nice if mtk had some real Linux support since it's pretty much the only 3G enabled SoC out there that is used much but I could not find any info on it
<hramrach> there are some sources on the net but no info on what goes where I could find
<libv> paulk-aldrin: cool, so one step forwards, and at least one patch for sunxi-3.4 :)
<paulk-aldrin> hramrach, AFAIK the MTK sources don't even build and are dirty as hell
<hramrach> that tends to be the case with sources that have no info attached
<paulk-aldrin> libv, sure
* libv is restructuring livesuit a bit so it can live in one repo
<libv> so that nobody has to trawl through the interweb anymore, and that stupid errors like the one i just ran into don't occur anymore
<libv> another episode in "I cannot believe nobody else did this, and i cannot believe that some who ran into those same issues never fixed things properly"
<paulk-aldrin> mhh, I was under the impression that livesuit was non-free?
<libv> oh, sure, but that doesn't mean that we don't sometimes depend on it
<libv> it's about as non-free as the sdks we have so, why not put that up on github as well
<hramrach> I just avoided livesuit because I expected problems like this
<libv> hramrach: i cannot avoid livesuit in this case
<libv> how else am i going to investigate our libnand driver killing some nand contents
<hramrach> I see. You have to reformat it to AW format when it gets killed
<libv> i just livesuit the ct android image again
<libv> until the android survives a run of our kernel
<libv> another case of "why has no-one else bothered to do this before"
<hramrach> because next to nobody knows
<libv> nono, it's another case of "nobody bothered"
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<hramrach> libv: you know about the cb2 linux images with the old linux 3.3 libnand?
<hramrach> this has the very first libnand for a20 we had
<libv> is this different from the libnand we have in sunxi-3.4?
<hramrach> that's what might be worth investigating
<libv> nah, that smells like a binary
<hramrach> there might be an issue in integrating the a20 changes
<libv> i am going to stop our current code from killing things
<hramrach> yes, that's a binary
<libv> and then hope that we have a means of rescuing what is there
<libv> hramrach: so you expected me to just look at the whole of the binary for something which is not currently delineated?
<hramrach> from this source or something similar https://github.com/hramrach/linux-sunxi/tree/nand
<hramrach> I had a page about it on sunxi wiki but seems it got deleted
<hramrach> it had exact commit link on it so you would know it is buildable
<hramrach> I do not have permission to view that
<libv> there's nothing even remotely related to nand in there
<hramrach> it was something about cb2 debian linux 3.3 image
<hramrach> it had the very first libnand there was
<hramrach> for a20, anyway
<libv> nothing relevant on Cubieboard2_wheezy_image
<hramrach> it just had link to the frankenkernel tree
<hramrach> I don't remember which was it anymore
<hramrach> anyway, if you manage to get the android corrupted with 3.4 and not this cb2 image then the integration of a20 changes probably failed
<hramrach> but if the cb2 image also corrupts it means they changed something in the android images
<hramrach> libv: can you undelete the page?
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<ZetaNeta> :DDDDDD
<ZetaNeta> WANT!
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<hramrach> 16 MB L3 cache
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<ZetaNeta> hramrach, Just in case, no need to put it in translator. I am Russian
<hramrach> but I would not get eh link if it was not in translator ;-)
<hramrach> but yeah, was wondering if you could perhaps read the original too
<ZetaNeta> I am trying to get Elbrus 4c for my friend. He is mad about it, and made me mad "want it" about it
<ZetaNeta> hramrach, Where are you from?
<hramrach> Czech
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