<chkktri>
hramrach_, i'm looking for a tablet on which i can install archlinux/debian/ubuntu and use it for reading/surfing/video playing. touchscreen support would be critical
<mnemoc>
a naive attempt to broaden the scope of the community
<mnemoc>
sadly many people keeps binding us with the 3.4 kernel alone
<mnemoc>
it was always intended to cover anything related to allwinner SoCs.... kernel wise we began at 2.6.36 and move it forward to 3.0 and to 3.4 before allwinner did
<mnemoc>
i fail to see why the move to mainline is different
<mnemoc>
or different kernels, bootloaders, and REing of closed units
<JohnDoe_71Rus>
how many sunxi devices work in the world? some statistic
<afaerber>
wens, no breakthrough yet :( I'll happily test your branch tonight, or you can cherry-pick my patch for testing
<wens>
i already tested with sun5i-a13-mmc, doesn't work :(
<wens>
didn't commit the dt parts yet
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<mripard>
mnemoc: "i fail to see why the move to mainline is different" ??
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<hramrach_>
chkktri: there is no tablet with known good touchscreen support. Also surfing can be quite resource intensive
<hramrach_>
as in I have not seen an AW tablet with decent web browser performance
<hramrach_>
best performance you will get is probably with a20 atm but still poor
<hramrach_>
touchscreen support is hit and miss. unless somebody has touchscreen working on a tablet and you can be sure you can get the exact same hardware it may or may not work
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<hramrach_>
you might get usable surfing performance with an a80 or rk3188/rk3288 but the support for those SoCs is severely lacking
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<chkktri>
hramrach_, ic... at least surfing with dillo should be possible
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<hramrach_>
yes, you can get a web page or two rendered. just don't expect browsing with an a20 tablet will be fast or convenient
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<hramrach_>
there is accelerator for vieo decoding but not accelerator for web and the rendering engines tend to be memory hungry
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<mnemoc>
mripard: I fail to see why the move from 3.4 to 3.8 and so on qualifies as an "we vs. them" and not just the continuation of the same project which began with 2.6.36
<mnemoc>
mripard: goals evolved as the project and the community matured.
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<mripard>
mnemoc: why does it qualify?
<mripard>
I'm not sure I understand what you have in mind, sorry :)
<mnemoc>
mripard: I just meant to say it's not two different communities
<mripard>
ah, yep.
<mnemoc>
mripard: it was in the context that it would be nice to have the netbsd/sunxi developers around too
<mripard>
indeed
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<Getty>
Offshore: there is a (probably BIT risky) but simple method
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<hramrach_>
Getty: yeah, you can like backup your superblock and then overwrite it with 0
<Getty>
hramracn_: that would have been my suggestion
<Getty>
like dd out some blocks at the beginning
<Getty>
and dd them back in later
<hramrach_>
but you might have trouble booting even with fsck without restoring the superblock by hand
<Getty>
yeah well it seems like he wanted just to see that it stops
<Getty>
and not actually get it fixed on that stage
<hramrach_>
there are some repairable but not automagically repairable errors
<hramrach_>
on which fsck stops
<hramrach_>
Offshore | how to intentionally make a recoverable error on ext*
<hramrach_>
so probably wants it fixed after the prompt
<Getty>
i thought it was more a "after the test recoverable" ;)
<Getty>
wouldnt the boot test like for sure recover errors he can recover? and only would ask if he for sure destroys data if he would fix it (and so gives you the chance to fix it otherway)
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<Offshore>
Getty, not yet
<Offshore>
[00:16] <Getty> yeah well it seems like he wanted just to see that it stops
<Getty>
"not yet" <= you didnt found it
<Getty>
and you quote me to say "yes thats what i want" ?
<Getty>
dude, you got 10 fingers, use them ;)
<Offshore>
no, i really want to make some "serious" inconsistency for fsck to be worried but be able to fix
<Getty>
oh! ok, yeah thats a bit more complex then :)
<Getty>
i just wonder what this case will be
<Offshore>
[01:30] <Getty> "not yet" <= you didnt found it | yes i didnt, sorry :)
<Getty>
as i think fsck fixes all automatically what it CAN automatically fix without damage to the data
<Offshore>
Getty, well 10 fingers, but not native english :p
<Getty>
he just blocks if there is a RISK that data gets lost and he cant decide that
<Getty>
me too :-P thats no excuse
<Getty>
just write MORE
<Getty>
say it 3 times
<Getty>
works ;)
<Getty>
we are not twitter, no 140 char limit! :D
<Getty>
btw, its "native speaking english".... i do the same mistake ;)
<Offshore>
[01:31] <Getty> as i think fsck fixes all automatically what it CAN | well. orphaned inodes maybe
<Offshore>
but how to introduce them?
<Getty>
Offshore: yeah well.... zero-pad some area of the fs???
<Getty>
offshore: if you dont care abut the test filesystem, just zero-fill like.... 1/4 of the harddisc
<Getty>
I BET THATS ENOUGH TO STOP HIM ;)
<Getty>
hehehe
<Getty>
but he will offer you a fix, i bet
<Offshore>
Getty, now im testing with vm, but the final test will be done with real system
<Getty>
vm is fine for this
<Getty>
totally
<Getty>
so test what he does
<Getty>
if you zero-fill some area
<Getty>
be sure to hit an inode ;)
<Offshore>
so, the situation im trying to be ready to:
<Offshore>
consider lvm2, one vg, 4 pvs, 2 lvs: 1 mirrored (2 copies) and 1 linear
<Offshore>
mirrored for db data, git, etc
<Offshore>
linear for logs, torrents and stuff
<Getty>
OH SHIT, LVM....??
<Getty>
i am out ;)
<Offshore>
no matter, lvm or raid
<Getty>
"no matter"
<Getty>
yeah that is pretty much relevant
<Getty>
but ok.... as said, try with 0 filling some shit and see what happens
<Offshore>
they are both good enough now, but lvm is much more convenient
<Getty>
its a start
<Offshore>
well okay
<Offshore>
but tomorrow, its almost 2am in moscow :)
<Getty>
2 AM? and you stop working?
<Getty>
seriously???? ..... pussy....
<Getty>
and that as a russian..... my white russian next to me is seriously disappointed
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<Offshore>
gotta go working at 8am :)
<Getty>
work? whats that?
<Getty>
oh... you mean... life
<Getty>
ok ;)
<Getty>
get it ;)
* Getty
is self employed
<Offshore>
Getty, im too old for this shit, things were nicer when i was 19 )
<Getty>
LOL how old you are now?
<Offshore>
Getty, well... me too, a company of about 40 ppl :)
<Getty>
then you dont need to be there at 8 oclock :-P
<Offshore>
26 lol :)
<Getty>
LOL
<Getty>
yeah you are doing it wrong
<Getty>
unbelievable!
<Getty>
hire me, i fix you
<Getty>
hehehe
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<Offshore>
its not an IT company, sry :(
<Getty>
still
<Offshore>
legal services
<Getty>
if you have so many people and its still required that you are at the office at 8am, then..... yeah ;)
<Getty>
pffff ;9 you cant convince me
<Getty>
you are doing it wrong!
<Offshore>
8am is time to get up to be there at 10am
<Getty>
when i still worked at companies, the boss was pleased when i reached at 13-14 oclock
<Offshore>
ceos assembly when no managers there
<Getty>
nowadays i work till 5-6 in the morning
<Offshore>
Getty, heh, just 1 year ago i was doing the same shit
<Offshore>
and i fuken miss that thing
<Getty>
YOU picked todo legal shit
<Getty>
its YOUR choice
<Getty>
we do IT cause we can do that
<Getty>
;)
<Offshore>
i just decided to make some money to be able to do what i want
<Getty>
so be ashamed of your life choices and crawl into your bed
<Getty>
yeah
<Getty>
you have to get up at 8 am
<Offshore>
well its a tradeoff, but
<Getty>
thats FOR SURE what you want
<Getty>
yeah
<Getty>
i do what i want
<Offshore>
serious business :p
<Getty>
;)
<Getty>
i am not rihc yet
<Getty>
BUT GOING THERE! ;)
<Offshore>
Getty, if i offer you for example a corvette c3 for half year of 8am, i think you'll gonna get up 6am instead by yourself to get this thing :p
<Getty>
no
<Getty>
i am not that kind you can bribe
<Offshore>
hehheh
<Getty>
you CANT bribe me, i have no moral, but i have my "thats the way i do it, fuck off and die if you dont take it"
<Getty>
i worked at duckduckgo just saying ;) past sentence ;)
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<Offshore>
ah
<Getty>
i quit big jobs, i denied google, i just dont give a shit, i want my fun!
<Getty>
sometimes i have to eat dirt, but its just punctual, i hate doing that ALL DAY!
<Offshore>
i want my own apartments, shiny gf and enough resource to educate my children in future
<Getty>
i want to conquer the world
<Offshore>
here in russia its not so easy as in usa with credits
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<Getty>
german here
<Getty>
with lots of love for russians
<Getty>
A LOT OF LOVE
<Getty>
i quit friendships about the ukraine topic
<Offshore>
Getty, me too, but its a shoestring for me to bring down the universe =)
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<Getty>
support me, i can do it
<Getty>
my way is the right way, join the empire, integrate into the hive, obey to the emperor
<Offshore>
Getty, go find another universe!11
<Offshore>
so
<Offshore>
where had we... aw
<Offshore>
[01:36] <Getty> OH SHIT, LVM....??
<Offshore>
why dont you like lvm so much? ))
<Getty>
yeah well... i once had a C&C gme with a russian
<Getty>
after 16 hours we called it a draw
<Offshore>
%)
<Getty>
oh i am just so lowlevel these days
<Getty>
that LWM is like the most far thought in my brain