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plaes >
libv: how long it takes after you install and enable this service?
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montjoie >
hello tllim, could you confirm that modelA will never go in production, I need this information for updating pineh64 DT
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tllim >
PINE64 didn't retired the PINE H64 model A, there is one project actually working using model A.
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tllim >
This project is KODI related
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montjoie >
does there are difference between the version you send and the final ?
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montjoie >
ok thanks
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wens >
tllim: google still shows a whole bunch of old URLs
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obbardc >
hey @jernej, I am looking at H6 hdmi framebuffer
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obbardc >
to run desktop lxde or some other window manager
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obbardc >
do you have any hints?
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megi >
obbardc: Xorg doesn't work for you?
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obbardc >
is there H6 support for simplefb ?
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obbardc >
is it needed for Xorg ?
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obbardc >
awesome, so it should work OOB
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obbardc >
last night I tried installing xorg but it did not work
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megi >
yes, with modesetting driver
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megi >
just use Option "AccelMethod" "none" so that you get acceptable speed
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Alexis3D >
H6 uses DE DRM afaik
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obbardc >
I installed debian package xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
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megi >
that's not needed
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Alexis3D >
Yup, for DRM the built-in modesetting is enough
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Alexis3D >
fbdev is for compatibility with framebuffer devices, but by default the DE doesn't provide that
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obbardc >
how about xserver-xorg-video-modesetting
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Alexis3D >
That one should be good to go
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megi >
use this config
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obbardc >
thx, will give it a try
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obbardc >
do i need to install mali userspace or anything other than xorg ?
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megi >
you'll need linux 5.4 or to force EDID to get a correct resolution though
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megi >
depending on the board
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megi >
what board do you have?
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obbardc >
orangepi oneplus
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obbardc >
it has GPIO enable pin for edid hardware
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obbardc >
but that is no hassle
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dgp >
MoeIcenowy: I have a bunch of the S3. I looked at the S3L too but only one SPI controller makes it a no go
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libv >
plaes: .9s faster from 9.165 down to 8.277
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KotCzarny >
most likely enough entropy is generated on your machine
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KotCzarny >
i remember some of my machines do the same
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plaes >
ah.. I misread your previous comment :P
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libv >
so i am not sure how much of that is the standard variance between systemd boots
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KotCzarny >
pressing any key usually ticks the rng enough to boot them
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KotCzarny >
libv: maybe you have working tpm etc
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libv >
no tpm afaik
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KotCzarny >
old distro then?
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plaes >
well, I ran into this issue with Debian 10 / Buster
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libv >
i think plaes also uses a20 a lot
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dgp >
9s to runing a display with something useful?
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libv >
still on stretch
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KotCzarny >
i remember older ones compiled agains openssl 1.0.x dont show this issue
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KotCzarny >
yup. dist-upgrade and be amazed, hehe
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libv >
dgp: until login at least
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plaes >
I'm planning to deploy ~100 more devices this year
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* dgp
thought 3s from kernel entry to busybox login was good :(
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libv >
9s is 3x as much
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dgp >
yeah but loading up a display is going to be many times the amount of work of loading busybox
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libv >
not entirely sure whether the display driver is the big time consumer there
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libv >
things like waiting for network are also in there
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KotCzarny >
xorg starts quick unless there is still lingering disk i/o
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libv >
oh, no xorg, just text mode, but with working display showing a login
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libv >
display != window manager
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libv >
or windowing system
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dgp >
libv: systemd should bring up the network interfaces in the background without waiting as long as you don't use debian's ifupdown stuff
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KotCzarny >
some services wait for network
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plaes >
yeah, in my case, ssh/rng stuff was blocking the display stuff :(
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KotCzarny >
and login starts at the very end
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dgp >
switching from ifupdown to networkd (?) stopped my router locking up for 5 minutes on boot
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libv >
plaes: adding buster info to the wiki entry
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* KotCzarny
just uses ip commands in rc.local
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KotCzarny >
(at least on devices that have to start quick and have services cut to almost 0
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KotCzarny >
then the boot time is down to uboot+kernel init time
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fALSO >
sirs, i've set up a JENKINS
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fALSO >
building atf, uboot, and kernel
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fALSO >
for the boards that I have
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fALSO >
checking twice a day if theres changes in the git repos, and if there are, rebuilds it
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* dgp
prefers buildbot for that
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fALSO >
and generates an archive with the resulting stuff
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fALSO >
i took a look at buildbot
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fALSO >
and it seemed weirder
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dgp >
It's only really weird in that the config file is a python script (and the web interface is broken in Debian) but it's a lot more nimble than jenkins is
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fALSO >
i never had used one or other
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fALSO >
being able to configure it via the browser is pretty good
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dgp >
The next stage is to have all of your boards update after the build is finished. I have stuff like my LoRaWAN gateways boot from TFTP and they have a little applet that listens to MQTT for reboot triggers
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fALSO >
i could use rsync
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karlp >
are they all on a vpn to be able to reach the tftp server or what?
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fALSO >
to copy the files to the boards, and then run a script there, to flash the bootloader
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fALSO >
my problem: i cant have them all connected at hom
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fALSO >
my problem: i cant have them all connected at home
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fALSO >
i've ran out of ethernet ports
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fALSO >
gotta buy a switch or something
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dgp >
If you don't mind the noise old rack switches are cheap. I got a 48 port one for less than $50
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karlp >
5 port gig switches are like $7 on ali.
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fALSO >
but... let me see if i can get a gigabit one cheap
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fALSO >
it will be another thing wasting power
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mru >
cheap switches are the devil
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KotCzarny >
best to raid old corporate inventories
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mru >
you can get a half-decent managed netgear switch for not a lot
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KotCzarny >
and since one have gpios available, one could add a power relay to turn them on/off when needed
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dgp >
buy a 48 port switch, split it into however many vlans you need, never buy another switch
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KotCzarny >
usb networking is also a thing
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KotCzarny >
works well enough for its uses
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dgp >
I heard a really good ARM SBC uses that.
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KotCzarny >
and im not talking usb2eth, just usb2usb
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mru >
usb can be useful in a pinch, but I would never use it as primary connectivity
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dgp >
the quality of gigabit ethernet blocks in SoCs does seem to be a lot better than the quality of USB controllers
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mru >
and ethernet is inherently a better protocol
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KotCzarny >
yet, he is a cheap ass and usb is readily available
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* dgp
never has a free usb port
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* karlp
hands mru CDC-EEM, CDC-ECM and ndis. "look ma, it's ethernet!"
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jernej >
obbardc: I'm not even sure if I run any window manager on H6 yet, so no hints :)
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KotCzarny >
one funny thing, adding haveged to my old old thinkpad x40, made the firefox run faster. probably bastard was eating rng like cookies
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wens >
I use jitterentropy-rngd
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jo0nas >
wens: I've been wondering: Do you know which is "better" and why?
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