<clementp[m]>
sun3iw1p1 = R6 , so sun3i should be Cortex-A9 family I have updated the Allwinner SoC family
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<ullbeking>
KotCzarny: yeah, good chassis, especially SFF ones, are _very_ difficult to make well, i.e., ones that are designed to allow the system to run cool and be properly ventilated, and in turn, fans are less likely to come on, in turn, quiter
<ullbeking>
near-silence or complete silence is pretty much my #1 priority
<KotCzarny>
all my boards run fanless
<karlp>
tuxd3v: there's also a command line tool for talking to patchwork instances, if you prefer
<karlp>
ullbeking: what is "SFF" ?
<ullbeking>
karlp: SFF == "small form factor"
<ullbeking>
through experience I have learned that bigger chassis are better for making a near-silent computer
<ullbeking>
the SFF community is a bunch of nutcases IMO.
<ullbeking>
this is why I have given up on the dream of having all my computers mini itx in small chassis => no airflow
<KotCzarny>
you can run 120mm(12V0 fan on 5V
* karlp
just doesn'tdo things that makes them burn.
<KotCzarny>
it will be near silent
<ullbeking>
KotCzarny: that's a great idea; and requires a sufficiently large chassis (which I am using these days)
<ullbeking>
my preferred board sizes these days for workstations and servers are micro-ATX and ATX
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<wens>
you'll almost always get EATX for the dual socket ones though
<KotCzarny>
not all 12V fans will run on 5V tho
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<libv>
sff makes sense for roadwarriors who need to spend their days running bitbake
<libv>
i threw together a intel 6700k mini-itx system in late 2015 to be able to run bitbake at a customer site, while still being able to toss it into a backpack and walk off with it at any time, i never did get round to hacking the lid to only show the cpu fan though
<libv>
this was before intel was forced to bump the core count
<libv>
but yes, small + high power + total silence, is an impossible combination
<libv>
it's always a compromise
<KotCzarny>
up to the definition of 'small' and 'high power'
<KotCzarny>
and sometimes 'total silence', as electronics is often noise outside human hearing
<KotCzarny>
*noisy
<libv>
well, for a portable build machine, you do not need a discrete graphics card
<libv>
so that already cuts down size, power and noise
<libv>
then there's a brick sized external psu
<libv>
which is fine for a backpackable build system
<KotCzarny>
nowadays cellphones are so powerful they can fullfill above requirements
<KotCzarny>
what a time to be alive
<mru>
bitbake on a phone... hmm...
<KotCzarny>
multiple gigs of mem? check. 8+ fast cores? check.
<KotCzarny>
;)
<mru>
200+ G of fast storage? nope
<KotCzarny>
why not? sdcards came a long way
<mru>
lol
<mru>
I said fast
<KotCzarny>
;)
<[TheBug]>
and there are phones now with up to 1TB SSD
<[TheBug]>
'eMMc'
<KotCzarny>
and yeah, that ^
<mru>
you want nvme
<libv>
and 16+GB
<[TheBug]>
I want 1 million dollars too :)
<KotCzarny>
5G cloud storage?
<mru>
cloud is far too slow
<libv>
and actual cores that can maintain 4GHz
<libv>
and you need to pull the data down afterwards
<[TheBug]>
hehe, no your just being picky ;p
<KotCzarny>
'you're'
<[TheBug]>
now*
<[TheBug]>
your're
<libv>
you want the build machine to be gigabit ethernet away
<[TheBug]>
yeah sorry still rubbing slep out of my eyes
<mru>
GbE is too slow
<mru>
for accessing stuff while building
<[TheBug]>
40GB Inifiniband ftw
<mru>
you're better off editing code over ssh and building on a fast remote machine
<KotCzarny>
wifi is already in 1-2 gigabit range
<KotCzarny>
and 5g promises tens of gigabits
<KotCzarny>
assuming you can pay for that
<[TheBug]>
it also promises to cook you alive
<libv>
anyway, for my setup, i had repurposed a "preinstalled" vm on the customers windows to do iptables, then a switch, then a build machine, and when i would arrive i would just plug my laptop in the ethernet cable that was laying on the desk
<libv>
everything fit between the rolling cabinet and the desk
<KotCzarny>
you need hundreds of watts for cooking
<KotCzarny>
when it comes to cells damage otoh..
<KotCzarny>
;)
<libv>
and someone went round at one point and checked all cabling, to see if they are not shorted or whatever (german automotive company, they have rules and procedures)
<[TheBug]>
sure, but to simmer you don't need so much.. just cook you slowly over time
<libv>
and all my illicit power supplies got an approved sticker
<KotCzarny>
'..im the firestartahhh.. twisted firestartaaaa'
<[TheBug]>
LOL
<libv>
anyway, high powered mini-itx systems not much bigger than a mini-itx board do have their uses
<libv>
but perhaps gamers should not build mini-itx systems
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<ChriChri>
Hi and thanks for the great information at https://linux-sunxi.org/. I own a PocketBook InkPad 3 Pro which seems to be based on sun8iw10 (id=1699). I found a way to start in FEL mode and got an answer using sunxi-fel. I'd like to use FEL to USB boot the device, but the SoC is not (yet) supported. As I understood the page about USB boot I would need to put the "SRAM layout description information" into the source of sunxi-fel. I'm
<ChriChri>
wondering how to get the information about the layout without breaking the device (which is waterproof and only has the external USB to connect to). I can telnet into the running system and use a shell as a user without root permissions. Also I can look at /boot and most of the filesystem. Is there a way to get the information about the SRAM layout?
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