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<DocScrutinizer51> dang? I need a color photon multiplier video camera
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<amatus> color?
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<DocScrutinizer51> yeah color. for the wonders of life far from EE
<DocScrutinizer51> color of sku on canary islands 1h after sunset
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<DocScrutinizer51> s/sku/sky/
<amatus> do they make those in color?
<DocScrutinizer51> yes
<DocScrutinizer51> for an arm and a leg
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<DocScrutinizer51> a pity. first day I feel like recovering and relaxing. But also one of the last 2.5 days
<amatus> a lot can happen in a day
<amatus> carpe diem
<amatus> and other various platitudes
<DocScrutinizer51> ta :)
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<enyc> =)
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<dbdeuce> PayPal support: "I can confirm that Neo900 UG have most definitely received this payment on their account "
<DocScrutinizer51> YES THE HECK that's not the question, paypal!
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<DocScrutinizer51> I can look at a nice 5 figures number of credit on the account I can't use for *anything*
<DocScrutinizer51> sunce it's frozen in a reserve limited to twoo hundred thousand US Dollars
<DocScrutinizer51> dbdeuce: thanks for reporting
<NeutrinoPower> I don't understand why paypal was an option at all but an account at Deutsche Bank looks also a little bit weird for me
<DocScrutinizer51> well, we also accept letters with currency inside the envelope ;D
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<wpwrak> DocScrutinizer51: (letter with cash) but not happily, as i recall from the camp ;-)
<DocScrutinizer51> depends on the envelope
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<wpwrak> NeutrinoPower: why does an account at deutsche bank look weird ? (just curious)
* DocScrutinizer51 too
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<DocScrutinizer51> (frozen 200000 reserve) and paypal not even pays interest on it
<NeutrinoPower> it was the first time for me to transfer money to Deutsche Bank, it attent for me only when a scandal appeared in public of Deutsche Bank
<jonsger> thats why I payed with SEPA, but I'm still waiting for the device :(
<DocScrutinizer51> well, big cash big scandals
<DocScrutinizer51> I think there's a VW-bank too ;D
<NeutrinoPower> http://www.golem.de/1107/85243.html Paypal will in Deutschland Kuba-Embargo durchdrücken
<DocScrutinizer51> so what?
<DocScrutinizer51> our customers asked for paypal loudly
<DocScrutinizer51> if you don't like PP, we are the happiest of all involved when you don't use it
<NeutrinoPower> hm, why? I don't prefer paypal
<Arch-TK> DocScrutinizer51: Paypal is serviced by monkeys.
<Arch-TK> It's the firewall
<Arch-TK> but it's actually a wall of monkeys.
<DocScrutinizer51> why? seems you're in Germany or at least EU, so you don'y face the problems that make our US customers ask for PP
* Arch-TK imagines a load of monkeys stacked into a wall.
<DocScrutinizer51> Arch-TK: this doesn't help me out of whatever
<Arch-TK> DocScrutinizer51: I mean that in response to their responses.
<Arch-TK> Which all seem to answer the wrong question.
<Arch-TK> You see, it's almost like a brick wall, but a brick wall wouldn't answer, paypal's wall of monkeys gives a completely useless answer instead.
* Arch-TK is seriously considering making a completely idiotic kickstarter, like for making a fruit salad, to see if he can get thousands of dollars worth of spare money to invest into neo900
<dbdeuce> I get the same response over and over and over, basically... I would continue heckling them if you see a point
<dbdeuce> I don't :/
<DocScrutinizer51> (Deutsche Bank) among other reasons I hoped for a bank with US offices facilitating payments to a german account by US citizens. Alas I been fooled with such hope
<DocScrutinizer51> dbdeuce: I can't recently check what PP answered to my letter to them. I'll do so next week. Then we know more about what might make sense and what's futile
<DocScrutinizer51> dbdeuce: thanks for your support
<dbdeuce> np :)
<dbdeuce> I'll just fire another quick message before bed then, and I hope we get good news next week when you do see their reply
<DocScrutinizer51> please let PP know that your payment is for a transaction you consider accomplished and so PP has no right to freeze it on UG's account
<dbdeuce> sure, I will
<dbdeuce> it was made over 180 days ago, too
<dbdeuce> I'll point that out as well
<DocScrutinizer51> thanks a lot
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<enyc> DocScrutinizer51: considering... paypal internally will likely have a 'left hand doesn't know what the right hands doing' problem
<dbdeuce> most likely
<enyc> DocScrutinizer51: wonder how to do something to 'escalate' from customers side, somehow or other
<enyc> I wonder if there is an equivalent of the FSA in UK regulation (financial regulator) or something who can cause it to get ''raised''
<DocScrutinizer51> hmm there is
<DocScrutinizer51> in germany and in luxemburgh
<DocScrutinizer51> the latter being PPs EU central
<enyc> just a thought, possibly helpful
<DocScrutinizer51> already considered. Thanks for mentioning it
<enyc> ok =)
<DocScrutinizer51> in germany it's BaFin
<DocScrutinizer51> forgot the lux. entitys name
<DocScrutinizer51> aiui you (customer) can contact either your local finance authority or the german one (bafin) or the 37 resp luxemburgh one since that's where Neo900s PP is registered
<DocScrutinizer51> s/37/EU/
<enyc> intreseting
<enyc> though i didn't pay neo900 via pp so ... not me
<DocScrutinizer51> :)
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