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<robotanarchy_>
hi. I don't know how far software regarding the neo900 is. But maybe you guys can make use of that minimal i3-based touch environment I made for the N900 and other smartphones: https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1498779
<DocScrutinizer05>
:-) thanks!
<bencoh>
nice, thx a lot :)
<Wizzup>
cool, I was also playing with enlightenment on my gentoon900
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<robotanarchy_>
Wizzup: interesting :) I chose the elementary toolkit, because they aim to really support the low end machines. and also it looks good :D
<robotanarchy_>
...and the touch support is good enough
<Wizzup>
I still like the maemo wm a lot too
<robotanarchy_>
Wizzup: I like it too, but it isn't open source :-\
<robotanarchy_>
(at least as far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong)
<Wizzup>
robotanarchy_: uh
<bencoh>
robotanarchy_: hildon-desktop/mb2 is opensource
<bencoh>
(but there is no gtk3-compatible version ... yet :)
<Wizzup>
Who needs gtk3 :)
<bencoh>
I don't, some people might ... maybe robotanarchy_ cares because of wayland ;)
<robotanarchy_>
yes, I do :D
<bencoh>
robotanarchy_: any plans regarding a phone/messaging UI? :)
<robotanarchy_>
bencoh: yes, lot's of plans. that's why I released the current version
<bencoh>
<3
<robotanarchy_>
my current idea is: wrap sms and calls with an xmpp gateway and use gajim or any other xmpp client, that supports calling, as interface
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<bencoh>
oh
<DocScrutinizer05>
good approach
<robotanarchy_>
I'm more interested in the low-level stuff currently - I have looked at telepathy and ofono (that seems to be the obvious choice), but I don't like the code base
<robotanarchy_>
DocScrutinizer05: thanks
<bencoh>
robotanarchy_: I was just about to ask about those two ;)
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<Wizzup>
(nitpick) what bothers me is that there are so many half finished 'open source mobile envs'
<Wizzup>
We should just work on one that is 'good enough', gets the job done nicely, and not get endless amount of works
<Wizzup>
nice to see your work, though.
<robotanarchy_>
Wizzup: you are right, that's why I created another one. https://xkcd.com/927/ -- no, seriously: I've focused on re-using existing components from the normal Linux desktop (i3 and EFL libraries) with very little added code
<robotanarchy_>
cloc says: 955 LOC - and that is with all the testsuite code
<robotanarchy_>
and I want to keep it like that - small modular components, that can be interchanged easily
<Wizzup>
I mean, the 'hard' parts are the phone and sms parts
<Wizzup>
it's not the 'wifi selector'
<Wizzup>
but it sounds good.
<bencoh>
actually there was one around a tiling wm (wmii or dwm) targeting n900, but I cant find the project page anymore
<DocScrutinizer05>
FSO in SHR already worked, dos1 demonstrated it on PC with proto_v1
<robotanarchy_>
Wizzup: for phone and sms, there's not much competition. as far as I see, there's only ofono and telepathy, and they both abstract sms and telephony to dbus, but that doesn't seem very useful to me
<bencoh>
n900/HSI support in FSO is far from being complete
<Wizzup>
I have wmii on my n900 :)
<bencoh>
:)
<DocScrutinizer05>
bencoh: yep, but Neo900 support is already there :-)
<robotanarchy_>
Wizzup: do you really use tiling features on the small N900 screen? I've picked i3, because it has a clear IPC and is lightweight... but not to use it for tiling :p
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<robotanarchy_>
and because I can use the IPC with sway on Wayland in the future
<DocScrutinizer05>
and I think FSO worked on N900 too
<Wizzup>
robotanarchy_: No, I have it working on my testing n900. That's it
<bencoh>
I wonder if fluxbox (and its menu) would be actually useful/good for n900
<robotanarchy_>
Wizzup: I did a bit more than that, I wrote an own status bar and added a task switcher (i3 ipc) and application launcher
<robotanarchy_>
Wizzup: but yes, you are right, that was not the hard pard. but for me it was important to get that super lightweight development environment
<Wizzup>
I'm not trying to downplay what you did, fyi
<robotanarchy_>
Wizzup: I know, I didn't take it like that^^
<Wizzup>
:)
<Wizzup>
I am very interested in the mainline kernel
<Wizzup>
(I have 4.1-rc<something> running, and there are newer versions which have some bugs fixed iirc)