10:34 <brolin_empey> (AMD counterpart of Intel AMT/ME) Wikipedia says:

10:34 <brolin_empey> Is that an AMD counterpart of Intel AMT/ME?

10:34 <brolin_empey> “AMD has licensed and incorprorated TrustZone technology into its Secure Processor Technology.[93] Enabled in some but not all products, AMD's APUs include a Cortex-A5 processor for handling secure processing.[94][95][96] In fact, the Cortex-A5 TrustZone core had been included in earlier AMD products, but was not enabled due to time constraints.[95]”

10:37 <brolin_empey> jonwil is not here.

11:13 <atk> brolin_empey: yes

11:14 <atk> brolin_empey: http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/security

12:11 <brolin_empey> atk: That page does not seem to say anything about allowing remote control (over a network) of a computer with an AMD APU.

12:14 <brolin_empey> atk: That page seems to talk about the world within a single computer, not remote management of a computer over a network.

12:54 <atk> brolin_empey: You're quite right that it doesn't appear to directly access your NIC and doesn't appear to have its own network interface but as you can see from this AMD infographic: http://images.anandtech.com/doci/9319/Slide%2027%20-%20AMD%20Secure%20Processor.png it does have full access to your memory and resources, it controls your boot and does have the facilities to - if compromised - sit there quietly

12:54 <atk> compromising your security

12:55 <atk> It's certainly less scary than intel's AMT and its ME (ME is on all recent intel processors, AMT is only on vPro processorS)

12:55 <atk> (AMT appears to be built on top of ME

12:56 <atk> feature wise, the out of the box AMD PSP (No idea where that P is from) is like the consumer grade ME without AMT

12:56 <atk> they could probably make it quite like the AMT in the future in terms of remote control

12:56 <atk> but it would require a firmware update

14:57 <brolin_empey> atk: OK.

20:35 <ravelo_> Just looked through the resources page

20:55 <ravelo> For me it looks like you did really incredible work

23:53 <wpwrak> freemangordon, Pali: btw, how are you dealing with the PVR in modern kernels ? do you just treat it as a dumb frame buffer ? if yes, how is the performance ?

23:58 <freemangordon> wpwrak: well, the kernel we use (on Pali's tree on github) has maemo SGX driver forward-ported

23:58 <freemangordon> so userspace binaries work

23:58 <wpwrak> kewl :) thanks !

23:59 <Joerg-Neo900> see?

23:59 <freemangordon> hmm?