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<Oksana> Just looking at http://neo900.org/stuff/block-diagrams/neo900/neo900.html Would there be any point in a switch to cut off FM TX/RX from 3.5mm jack, or is it too paranoid?
<Joerg-Neo900> nRST should reliably keep the chip inactive
<Joerg-Neo900> also it's connected to codec, headphone is antenna only
<Joerg-Neo900> well, the TX is actually from HP_AMP_IN
<Joerg-Neo900> but nRST looks sage enough
<Joerg-Neo900> safe*
* Oksana was wondering if it is possible to support component TV-out, instead of (or besides) composite TV-out, but given capabilities of DM3730... No, not possible. Humans aren't expected to use one trrs jack for component TV-out and another method (Bluetooth or second trrs jack) for audio out
<Joerg-Neo900> component loses all its advantages when routed over a cheesy TRRS
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<Joerg-Neo900> and yes, then you need audio by another method
<Joerg-Neo900> plus DM3730 doesn't support component
<Oksana> So, trrs jack wouldn't work well for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YPbPr ?
<Joerg-Neo900> not really, since it has no really good "channel separation" at high freuqencies, and only one common ground
<Oksana> And 5-ringed 3.5mm jack would be non-standard, and difficult to maintain backwards compatibility with 3-ring and 4-ring variants.
<Joerg-Neo900> yes
<Joerg-Neo900> and you'd really need a 3 + 6 ring
<Oksana> And using two different trrs jacks for one component TV-out would get really complicated, despite its advantages of "two grounds" and "eight rings"
<Joerg-Neo900> could get away with 6pin, but then YPbPr is no much better quality than CVBS
<Oksana> Three grounds and nine rings altogether?
<Joerg-Neo900> 9 pins
<Oksana> >> Among consumer analog interfaces, only YPbPr and analog RGB component video are capable of carrying non-interlaced video and resolutions higher than 480i or 576i, up to HD ready for YPbPr. <<
<Oksana> Not that I would see the difference in video quality unless it was very, very bad
<Joerg-Neo900> yeah, but not via a flimsy TRRS
<Oksana> Not-flimsy ports are generally too thick for a mobile phone?
<Joerg-Neo900> there are some
<Joerg-Neo900> micro-HDMI for example
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<Oksana> HDMI is proprietary and digital. I am partial to analog, even though it's old-fashioned.
<Joerg-Neo900> the jack is just a jack
<Joerg-Neo900> and it can cope with the frequencies on YPbPr easily
<Joerg-Neo900> and prolly has enough pins
<Joerg-Neo900> but anyway, we can't do component
<Oksana> >> the jack is just a jack << external appearances are important for the sake of people not trying to use a jack for the purpose which it cannot fulfil
* Oksana nods, just musing
<anon-> composite video out is already excessive imo, component would be complete insanity
<anon-> remember that this is a phone...
<Joerg-Neo900> its little brother served me fine as videoplayer for several Dr.House episodes during my last visit in Spain
<Joerg-Neo900> the TV had a SCART and a adapter for CVBS
<anon-> few modern devices have analogue inputs any more
<Joerg-Neo900> and I got the cable with me
<anon-> woludn't a wireless protocol or hdmi-micro be better?
<Joerg-Neo900> microHDMI would be a think if the SoC would generically support it without blobs. Wireless is up to software and so is that USB displayport(?) thing
<Joerg-Neo900> s/think/thing/
<Joerg-Neo900> ~s/think/thing/
<anon-> perhaps a small fpga would be in order, but I think that level of video circuitry is out of scope
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<sixwheeledbeast> CVBS is still a thing on most of the modern TV's I have worked with. It maybe relegated to a 3.5 TRRS adaptor hidden under a plastic panel, or tied in with the component connectors but its normally an option. I would say USB to HDMI display adaptor would be another route.
<sixwheeledbeast> I also use TV-out on N900 every now and again. If I have downloaded a video to watch, I have the lead to watch on a TV away from home.
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<ldiamond> What's the bluetooth chip used on the neo900? Is it free of prop binary blobs??
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<Joerg-Neo900> oops ETAB
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