04:48 <galiven> Worth figuring out how to get from San Francisco to San Jose and give some randow person I've never met $100 for a "Unlocked n900 Excellent condition"? (https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/mob/d/san-jose-unlocked-nokia-n900/6887571145.html)

04:49 <galiven> Though right now I'm going to bed, so I won't see any answer til tomorrow.

04:51 <xmn> no pic, is not encouraging. But depends how bad you want one.

04:51 <xmn> I still use mine everyday.

07:06 <slobber> damn, too bad xmn left

07:06 <slobber> does anyone else here use n900 daily?

07:06 <slobber> if so, what's the preferred configuration? stock maemo or anything else?

07:11 <sicelo> CSSU Stable is most preferred.

07:12 <sicelo> I use it with CSSU Thumb. Haven't had any issues, but ymmv

07:13 <slobber> interesting

07:17 <slobber> wow, the process for getting to cssu and cssu thumb is really as easy as changing repos and installing the packages, huh

07:17 <slobber> i feel like a few years ago when i still had my n810 things were not as streamlined

07:37 <sicelo> you've just got one? start with CSSU Stable for at least a week. You can play wth Testing and/or Thumb after that, and see which works best for your use case

07:40 <slobber> sicelo: no, thinking of getting one

07:40 <slobber> just siphoning the docs at this point

07:43 <sicelo> two main problems to be aware of when getting one: (1) USB ports have a nasty habit of coming off, (2) modem stops working, and practically unrepairable.

07:52 <slobber> both of those sound horrible

07:55 <sicelo> not all devices get afflicted, but it'd be unfortunate to buy one with (2).

07:56 <slobber> i can't find any in properly decent condition on ebay anyway

07:56 <sicelo> the USB problem is not too bad, imo, if the port came off cleanly - i fixed mine myself, even though that was my first SMD job.

07:56 <slobber> they're either beat up or refabbed in china or 300$

07:57 <slobber> i did a usb port on a phone recently, messed up the data pins though

07:57 <slobber> so probably not going to attempt another for a _while_

07:57 <sicelo> look and ask on tmo as well ... i guess that's where you'll get some of the best condition N900

07:57 <sicelo> (you can alwasy take the N900 to a proper electronics repair shop) ;)

07:58 <slobber> tmo? literally tmobile stores?

08:00 <slobber> here are a few, but not sure whether i should trust china's refurbishing https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=&SearchText=n900

08:00 <sicelo> https://talk.maemo.org/

08:00 <slobber> ohhh, right

15:42 <DocScrutinizer05> ~tmo

15:42 <infobot> hmm... tmo is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen.

15:42 <DocScrutinizer05> ~usbfix

15:42 <infobot> usbfix is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt, or to avoid breakage, see ~usb-unplug

15:43 <DocScrutinizer05> 100 bucks is steep for a used device

15:44 <DocScrutinizer05> anything you need (to know about) "best config":

15:44 <DocScrutinizer05> ~lf

15:44 <infobot> hmm... #maemo lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach

16:32 <slobber> DocScrutinizer51: can you share that source?

17:29 <galiven> Haha, that makes sense that your stockpile is no longer called for since the project is done :'(

17:31 <galiven> I've been managing with a GTA04 for a few years hoping the Nikolaus would overcome the hurdles on the GTA05 or my deposit on Neo900 would pay off. But the GTA04 is not in very good shape.

17:33 <galiven> I confess that I put money down on the Purism phone too. It's far from perfect but all the free-er options have stalled.

17:34 <sicelo> any updates on the pyraphone or some such?

17:36 <galiven> Nikolaus has been working on iio-bridge in the kernel to handle multiple accelerometers as input devices, but the maintainer of that subsystem doesn't seem to like the approach.

17:36 <galiven> Thats all I know from lurking on the list.

17:44 <sicelo> thanks for the info

18:44 <DocScrutinizer05> have ab eye on cosmo communicator, not exactly "free" but... genuine support for multiboot, which means a bit at least

18:44 <DocScrutinizer05> an*

18:46 <DocScrutinizer05> a complete opposite the the purism approach as I understand it, which seems to be "our hardware our OS and we base our OS on something that once been debian" or somesuch

18:47 <xmn> I can't wait for some of these device come out then tested and have the 2nd iteration put out. Which is kinda of the case for cosmo, but for them maybe the 3 or 4th vers.

23:18 <slobber> DocScrutinizer05: sooo can i hit up your "...source of at least 200 devices in pretty much mint condition"?

23:41 <Oksana> sicelo: Great to hear that USB problem is fix-able by somebody without soldering experience?

23:42 <Oksana> DocScrutinizer05 : Small soldering iron, or better hot-air reflow... Will see what is available at makerspace. Watched the video a little, now I know that solder is not to be put at the tip of the iron - no idea how to clean tip of the iron though. I am guessing that soldering micro-USB port is quite different from soldering a through-hole chip? Reading up...

23:58 <Joerg-Neo900> yes, soldering the USB pins is quite difficult particularly to simply get by. For the reinforcement (soldering down the sheath to PCB) you need a rather large (80W+) soldering iron since the PCB has large copper planes that dissipate all heat

23:59 <Joerg-Neo900> for the pins hot air reflow with pre-wttwed/plated pads and pins and a lot of excellent flux, or even better using solder paste, is the better option for sure