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<houkime> Joerg-Neo900, on the display connector, pins 39-31 am i correct to assume that it is backlight LED array?
<Joerg-Neo900> sorry, I don't know off top of my head. Maybe refer to original N900 schematics
<houkime> Joerg-Neo900, is it avalable even?
<houkime> *available
<Joerg-Neo900> of course
<Joerg-Neo900> http://neo900.org/stuff/block-diagrams/neo900/neo900.html is a block diagram, you need to google for the schematics
<houkime> fetched RX-51 chematics from plan9
<houkime> yep it is backlight
<Joerg-Neo900> houkime: please check docs/hw/Nokia_N900_RX-51_Schematics.pdf et al... in maemo.cloud-7.de/_hidden and NEVER EVER post the concatenated URL so spiders could start searching it! If this happens, the URL vanishes in no time
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<Joerg-Neo900> you can search dirs up to docs/
<Joerg-Neo900> all of this stuff is (or was) publicly available, but I collected it for convenience reasons
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<houkime> replacing D1902 (zener in backlight regulation) with BZX884
<houkime> (it needs to be able to regulate either on the 10.5v level or 21v level)
<houkime> depending on serial or parallel connection of backlight LED rows
<houkime> BZX884 series contains parts for both voltages with the same footprint
<houkime> it is also new (2018) and small
<houkime> previous zener there was misrated and too weak.
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<houkime> replaced
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<Joerg-Neo900> >><houkime> BZX884 series contains parts for both voltages with the same footprint<< :thumbsup:
<Joerg-Neo900> >>too weak<< it only triggers a shutdown, doesn't regulate by itself
<Joerg-Neo900> actually which Zener?
<Joerg-Neo900> got it added post http://neo900.org/stuff/kicad/proto_v2/2016-11-20/ ?
<Joerg-Neo900> I'd really feel less nervous if I knew exactly what schematics you're working from
<houkime> this one is from official neo900 schematics, D1902 is present on the master branch as far as i remember
<Joerg-Neo900> https://i.imgur.com/0zE7UIp.png latest in my local git branch
<Joerg-Neo900> master
<houkime> interesting
<Joerg-Neo900> no idea what's going on
<houkime> need to recheck
<Joerg-Neo900> don't get me wrong, probably a Zener is an excellent idea (if applied correctly frpm P1901G 31 to 29) but why don't I see it?
<Joerg-Neo900> ugh wait, not this way
<Joerg-Neo900> this sucks, the original design doesn't allow for a zener
<Joerg-Neo900> you'd need a 10k or somesuch (instead trace) from R1915 to R1906, then Zener to R1906
<Joerg-Neo900> 1k
<houkime> interesting. I rechecked. This realy isn't in master
<houkime> hmmm...
<Joerg-Neo900> so Zener pulls up FB without using up full current meant for backlight#
<houkime> Will need to investigate how this happened
<Joerg-Neo900> that's what eeshow is for
<Joerg-Neo900> just bisect while watching the index sheet until a change on sheet 19 is shown by yellow mark of sheet19 on index sheet
<Joerg-Neo900> alas it seems it's borked for me now
<houkime> this is how itlooks on my end http://susepaste.org/view//47782775
<houkime> ok, will try to bisect
<Joerg-Neo900> zhere's a R1917 which I just "invented" :-D
<houkime> it is actually how i found it in regulator datasheet as one of the applications so it wasn't looking suspicious for me.
<Joerg-Neo900> looks good but I have no idea who and when designed this
<Joerg-Neo900> DNP comment oon R1912 and 1914 missing
<Joerg-Neo900> aaa nope, all fine
<Joerg-Neo900> they are "[ serial]"
<Joerg-Neo900> bug: R1917 1k to allow Zener to pull ip FB
<Joerg-Neo900> check if that complies with FB impedance
<Joerg-Neo900> if needed, make it 100R
<houkime> ok.
<Joerg-Neo900> rationale: when user operates device without display connected, avoid overvoltage from missing feedback to FB. But also avoid Zener and R1916 consuming the full power (10V * 40mA?) usually consumed by display backlight
<Joerg-Neo900> it's actually *possible* that Metacollin discussed this with me and added the Zener
<Joerg-Neo900> ...and I forgot
<Joerg-Neo900> houkime: did I already thank you for the great work?
<Joerg-Neo900> a pity it can't help the project anymore
<houkime> i don't think the life of the project has anything to do with what you or me think about the current status.
<houkime> it is opensource now completely.
<houkime> people decide what to do with it
<houkime> i make these changes now for people
<houkime> in the end, after i am done with it, i can just eliminate N900 compatibility requirement, design a case in a freecad, replace display and retune tracks for new antennas and it will be good to go regardless of part sourcing.
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<houkime> forgot to correctly place a slide sensor on the UPPER... oops.
<houkime> luckily a transform is already on hand
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<houkime> placed and locked
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<dos1> houkime: still got issues with git repos?
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<houkime> dos1, no, it is ok.
<houkime> dos1, checked right now
<houkime> remote is not too verbose but clone does finish after a long while
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