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<Oksana> DocScrutinizer05: If the cellular modem is a USB add-on to user's device, then surely, it can neither compromise whole device nor see user's all actions? At most, know user's location, and which servers user is exchanging data with, and when; but not contents of data itself (if it's encrypted with, say, SSL), and not user's off-line activities?
<Oksana> Just, most of modern phones make cellular modem heavily integrated, instead of USB-attached.
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<atk> it would be nice to launch an investigation into this
<atk> at least quallcomm's SOCs integrate it
<atk> and share memory with the modem
<atk> at least we can extrapolate that because they share memory with the WLAN module
<atk> which is just as stupid
<atk> as a series of recent CVEs prove
<atk> there must be at least some mainstream android phones which don't integrate it
<atk> and I mean recent phones which can run a web browser at a decent pace
<brolin_empey> atk: Atom-based smartphones, such as the Asus ZenFone 2 from 2015?
<atk> ooh
<atk> but wait
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<atk> if it's x86 based, aren't there going to be compatibility issues with applications which compile some native stuff?
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<brolin_empey> atk: I think that is only a problem if an application uses native code but only includes native code for ARM, not for x86. Off hand, the only example of such an application I can name off hand is an unofficial port of Doom 3 to Android that uses NEON native code but did not include native code for x86. I used Android 4.2 for x86 on a Geeksphone Revolution from when the Revolution was released early in 2014, forgot which month, until 2015 May or June and
<brolin_empey> do not remember finding anything else I wanted to use that did not work on Android on x86.
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<Joerg-Neo900> ssl going to expire in 8 days
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