06:46 <sixwheeledbeast> Oksana: I don't think you do. I agree about your concerns with mass distribution however from a cost perspective you get the possibility of two devices with minimal work.

06:48 <Oksana> Yes, something similar was done before - hardware keyboard TOH for Jolla.

06:48 <sixwheeledbeast> I would imagine the over all weight would be lighter so may not effect the feel.

06:48 <sixwheeledbeast> well too much

06:50 <Oksana> Either way, I wish for a mobile phone with no display whatsoever. Or minimal display, whichever rocks your boat. But such modularity is difficult, especially where small size is involved.

06:53 <sixwheeledbeast> I can't see that being a popular concept, the screen is the important factor for a lot of people.

06:57 <Oksana> Fair enough. But, if you are making phone calls, you do not need a display. If you want to see phone number, check the time (or weather forecast), get alarms (calendar notifications), then minimal display would be sufficient - even for SMS.

06:59 <Oksana> Large display is good for emails, news, social media, ebooks, coding... But it also requires good eyesight, for seeing tiny letters (unless the "phone" is a giant tablet).

07:00 <Oksana> People with poor eyesight will not read news on-the-go simply because it would require putting on the reading glasses, besides pulling out the phone.

07:01 <Oksana> Also, when people are walking/running/cycling/driving, they are consuming a minimal amount of information, to avoid distraction-driven accidents.

07:03 <Oksana> The concept of "tiny screen and hardware T9 keyboard" is attractive enough that there are lots of Bluetooth pseudo-phones on AliExpress which are add-ons for modern phablets - phablet can stay in the pocket/bag/wherever while its Bluetooth add-on is used to accept/decline/make calls.

08:14 <Kero> gemini/cosmo has given the keyboard plenty of thought. Battery underneath works well for weight distribution.

08:44 <sixwheeledbeast> Oksana: well exactly we are talking about a completely different device there.

08:45 <sixwheeledbeast> I liked the concept of a simple robust T9 device with fast connectivity so you can link a tablet or notebook.

08:46 <sixwheeledbeast> A bit like the Punkt devices but they where expensive for what they where.

08:50 <sixwheeledbeast> unfortunately i feel "smart" devices are in a rut when it comes to innovation. It's too easy to tie everything to the big app stores an make money.

19:07 <ravelo> 'loo