05:14 <KrispyKringle> hi, folks.

05:15 <neale> pretty much.

05:15 <KrispyKringle> can someone help me out with the syntax error I get on line 5 of the code here (http://rafb.net/paste/results/9Br3Vw93.html)? Thanks for the help.

05:16 <neale> I'm guessing you need "Unix.Unix_error"

05:16 <neale> not "Unix.unix_error"

05:17 <KrispyKringle> whoops. let me give that a shot

05:17 <KrispyKringle> sweet. thanks. i was stumped! :)

05:20 <mrsolo> hmm so if it is native code compiler.. why does it still need ocamlrun?

05:20 <neale> mrsolo: it doesn't.

05:21 <neale> only byte-compiled code needs ocamlrun

05:21 <mrsolo> hmm

05:21 <mrsolo> something is funky

05:21 <neale> sure sounds like it

05:21 <mrsolo> i used ocamlc.opt

05:21 <mrsolo> and got exe

05:21 <mrsolo> still want ocamlrun heh

13:15 <mflux> mrsolo, ocamlc.opt is only native version of ocamlc

13:15 <mflux> mrsolo, you want to use ocamlopt

13:15 <mflux> but maybe you figured that out during the previous 8 hours ;)

13:17 <Heimdall> Hi

13:17 <Heimdall> I *greatly* need help

13:17 <Herrchen> hi Heimdall

13:17 <Heimdall> OCaml GCis playing tricks on me

13:17 <Heimdall> caml_oldify_local_roots just hangs

13:18 <Heimdall> I call OCaml code from a C function

13:18 <Heimdall> it uses quite a lot of memory (recursive function for merging tyo lists)

13:18 <Heimdall> And whenever a minor or major GC is launched, it just never returns

13:19 <Heimdall> Do you have any idea of what could be happening ?

13:21 <Heimdall> no one ?

13:21 <mflux> sorry ;)

13:22 <Heimdall> ergl

13:22 <Heimdall> do you know which address space is used when calling OCaml code fro a C function ?

13:23 <Heimdall> I believed that it was the one of the OCaml process

13:23 <Heimdall> but it could may be explain what's happening to me if it uses the one of the C process

13:39 <mflux> if you're talking about unix, I would expect them to be mapped into same address space

13:46 <Heimdall> mflux: yes, I am executing it on Unix

13:54 <mflux> in unix processes don't tend to modify their address space

13:54 <mflux> well, except by mapping new regions into unused space

16:27 <mrsolo> yep

16:27 <mrsolo> silly me

16:27 <mrsolo> so why bother to different between ocamlc and ocamlc.opt?

16:30 <Riastradh> One may be faster than the other.

16:35 <mrsolo> not always?

16:35 <mrsolo> i assume ocamlc.opt is always faster

16:35 <mrsolo> if available

19:23 <mrsolo_> what's an good editor for working with ocaml? eclipse plugin isn't too good..

19:23 <neale> emacs

19:24 <monochrom> outlook express

19:24 <neale> heh

19:24 <monochrom> imagine, you can email the code to yourself!

19:25 <neale> sounds handy

19:26 <mrsolo_> back to emacs again hmm?

19:33 <neale> emacs is great because it lets you program your major mode

19:33 <neale> also, it comes with the most powerful mail agent in the universe

19:33 <neale> and tetris!

19:35 <mrsolo_> hmm let me rephrase the question

19:35 <mrsolo_> is there other editor beside emacs for ocaml?

19:35 <mrsolo_> hmm another eclipse ocaml plugin in work

19:39 <neale> might I ask what's wrong with emacs?

19:40 <neale> (just curious)

19:41 <mrsolo_> excellent, just the learning curve

19:41 <mrsolo_> but may have to learn it anyway

19:48 <neale> I've found the learning curve is pretty reasonable with the addition of menus and M-x customize

22:42 <KrispyKringle> so im feeling pretty stupid. i had this working, but now i forget quite how. if i'm compiling a .ml file that references a standard module (Unix), then I want to do ocamlc -o foo unix.cmo foo.ml, no? But that doesn't work.

22:51 <Smerdyakov> unix.cma

22:53 <KrispyKringle> ooh, thanks.

22:53 <KrispyKringle> yep, that would do it ;)

23:32 <KrispyKringle> so if I do something like let stats = Unix.fstat fd in... and then try to access a member of the record returned by the fstat call like stats.st_size, do I need to do something specific to access that record type definition, since it's not present in the toplevel namespace? it seems I do, since I get the error "unbound record label".

23:32 <KrispyKringle> I suppose I could open Unix, but I'd rather not.