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<ktulu666> hello
<m3ga> ktulu666: howdy!
<ktulu666> someone can tell me how to concatenate 2 strings ?
<ktulu666> i'm a newbie
<ktulu666> and french lol
<ktulu666> not easy for me
<ktulu666> m3ga, plop :)
<m3ga> let x = "asdd" ^ "qweqwe" ;;
<ktulu666> thank you :)
<m3ga> the caret is the string concactenation operator
<m3ga> ktulu666: Ocaml is written by a french research group
<m3ga> in case you didn't knoe
<m3ga> s/knoe/know/
<ktulu666> m3ga, yes i know but i didn't find the
<ktulu666> the doc
<m3ga> ok, cool.
<m3ga> do you know any other languages or is ocaml your first?
<ktulu666> m3ga, i know C#
<ktulu666> very better than caml
<ktulu666> i don't know caml
<ktulu666> a little bit i'm doing my first project right here
<ktulu666> right now
<ktulu666> my english is very bad lol
<m3ga> if you know C# then try http://ocaml-tutorial.org/
<ktulu666> m3ga, thank you i go to see it :)
<m3ga> Personally I think Ocaml is way better than C++/Java/C# for high level programming.
<ktulu666> m3ga, a oui ? why ?
<ktulu666> i like c# :)
<juri> also one option that might feel a bit more familiar is nemerle, it's a c#/ml hybrid
<ktulu666> i don't have test c++ or java for now
<ktulu666> i didn't have should be better?
<m3ga> nemerle is ***WAY*** cool. I wish it had a native binary compiler though :-)
<ktulu666> i think i need a travel in england or usa
<ktulu666> i have never heard of this langage
<m3ga> ktulu666: ocaml I like because : variant types, pattern matching, functional programming, type inferenceing, strict static types and so on
<m3ga> google for nemerle :-)
<pango_> and it doesn't require .NET
<m3ga> pango_: does nemerle have OO as well?
<pango_> m3ga: never heard of nemerle til today
<m3ga> oh, you mean ocaml doesn't need .NET?
<pango_> yes
<pango_> nemerle does too, afaics
<m3ga> ahh, ok. Yes, big advantage over c# :-)
<pango_> "Nemerle is a high-level statically-typed programming language for the .NET platform."
<m3ga> yes
<m3ga> its a nice langugae though. wish it had a native binary compiler :-)
<ktulu666> .NET is microsoft doesnt it ?
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<m3ga> as much as I like ocaml, the syntax is a bit of a pain
<pango_> m3ga: I got used to it
<m3ga> yeah, so have I, but I still hate begin/end.
<m3ga> and some other stuff
<pango_> m3ga: use parenthesis
<juri> i whined about the syntax on my blog and someone emailed me and said i should take a look at sml, according to him it's a bit easier there
<pango_> m3ga: from semantic point of view, there's no difference
<m3ga> true, but there's more to a language than just semantics. style does count.
<pango_> m3ga: exactly what I meant
<Schmurtz> ktulu666 you may have a look at F#, a ml implemetation by microsoft
<pango_> F# is more OO/less module oriented than ocaml however
<Schmurtz> it should be well integrated with C# and .net
<pango_> they even dropped functors I think
<pango_> problem with .NET is that all supported languages look like C# with a different syntax...
<Schmurtz> yes, it's the goal of the .NET platform
<Schmurtz> only one API for many languages
<pango_> I didn't mean the same API
<m3ga> juri: sml doesn't look that different from ocaml
<pango_> but what makes each language different and interesting (ocaml functors,...) seem to be unsupported
<pango_> so in the end you just have some common feature set with different syntaxes
<m3ga> yep, m$ dumbs it down again
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<Schmurtz> pango_, exactly
<pango_> The idea is good (some common managed platform, different frontends) but I'm not sure the implementation is right
<Schmurtz> and the resulting compiled code is the same for all languages
<pango_> in fact the idea isn't new, I remember people talking about it in RMLL 0 conferences
<pango_> (1999 ?)
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<pango_> (no, 2000)
<pango_> http://lsm2000.abul.org/program/topic01_en.html "Multi-language multi-processor platform"
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<univac> ocaml > python? :)
<ulfdoz> How do you define the order?
<univac> mhm
<univac> i think icaml is faster tahn python
<pango> but slower than asm
<univac> hrhr
<univac> normal ...
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<Schmurtz> "i think icaml is faster tahn python"
<Schmurtz> I'm sure
<Schmurtz> python is interpreted, ocaml may be natively compiled
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<mikeX> can I determine or cast a widget type in lablgtk2?
<Snark> mikeX: I think yes
<Snark> but it shouldn't be done
<mikeX> apart from the coerce and as_widget method
<Snark> I was thinking about those
<mikeX> well I want to somehow run through a list of child widgets, and gather widget specific information from them. Can this be done in any other way (apart from passing around lists widgets whenever they are created)
<Snark> mikeX: doesn't sound typesafe
<mikeX> hmmm
<mikeX> well thanks anyway Snark
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