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<dark_light> someone knows what means "Self type cannot be unified with a closed object type"? i am defining a method of my class calling a external function and passing the object to that function
<dark_light> like: method receive_irc = let msg = self#receive in incoming self msg
<dark_light> (Hmmm, i found a type 'a here, i think it's the problem..)
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<dark_light> there are any doc that explains the 'details' of objects in ocaml? some things i am receiving don't makes sense
<Ballin_05> dark_light, you live in brazil ?
<Ballin_05> dark_light, i am guessing because of : Elias Gabriel Amaral da Silva
<dark_light> Ballin_05, yeah :) i live in natal, rio grande do norte, brasil
<Ballin_05> i leave for brazil in 3 days
<Ballin_05> dark_light, to rio de janerio and i am worried
<Ballin_05> i might be there a whilllle
<dark_light> worried? hmmm.. too much dangerious?
<Ballin_05> dark_light, i dunno
<Ballin_05> dark_light, i here alot of stuff here and there about Rio De Janerio
<dark_light> Ballin_05, are you in brazil right now?
<Ballin_05> i talked to a few people and they say not to be worried
<Ballin_05> dark_light, 3 days
<Ballin_05> plane to Rio De Janerio
<Ballin_05> dark_light, someone that lives around here told me i will be descriminated becasue i am white .....i am of European decent
<dark_light> there are places in that traficants says when the shops can open. but not all places in rio are that way. and i have never seen this kind of power here in natal..
<dark_light> Ballin_05, well.. it depends where you go..
<Ballin_05> French/German/Italian <<
<Ballin_05> i am pretyt light skinned but i am pretty tan right now .....casu i goto beach everyday
<dark_light> Ballin_05, i really don't know how is the life in rio.. :(
<Ballin_05> so theres no one my skin color in brazil ...............i dont care being minority but i dont want to be descriminated lol
<Ballin_05> usa is everything white/black/mexican etc
<Ballin_05> dark_light, or i dont want EY man lets go rob the white boy or anything like that
<dark_light> Ballin_05, i don't see *many* discrimination for very white people, usually people likes to talk with tourists
<Ballin_05> dark_light, i will be living in brazil maybe for years
<Ballin_05> this is for work
<Ballin_05> this is not vacation lol
<dark_light> doesn't matter, all places i go when there are a people that is not from brazil, the brazillians starts to try to talk in english lol
<Ballin_05> lol
<Ballin_05> i have a 3 months porturgese class 8 hours a day 5 days a weeek
<dark_light> it's funny because sometimes the people comes here to talk in portuguese
<Ballin_05> i speak french english and spanish
<Ballin_05> all fluent
<Ballin_05> in usa you better know how to speak spanish
<Ballin_05> or you will learn lol
<Smerdyakov> Ballin_05, that's not even close to true.
<Smerdyakov> Ballin_05, it all depends on where in the huge USA you live.
<Ballin_05> Smerdyakov, i dnno where you live
<Ballin_05> i live in Miami
<Ballin_05> and i lived in LA
<Ballin_05> and i lived in Santa Barbara
<Smerdyakov> It probably also depends on your place on the socioeconomic totem pole.
<Ballin_05> and in all of those places spanish i here and had to speak almost daily
<Smerdyakov> Rich people never have to speak languages they don't want to.
<mikeX> good point
<Ballin_05> well here where i live spanish will help you
<Smerdyakov> I've lived in the USA my whole life and never been in any situation (outside of Spanish class in high school) where it was expected that I speak or understand Spanish.
<Ballin_05> spanish is taught from 1 st grade all the way up to 12th
<Ballin_05> where idd you live ?
<dark_light> i know to speak only portuguese :( i can read and write a bit in english, but not hear or speak..
<Smerdyakov> Allentown, PA; Pittsburgh, PA; Monmouth, NJ; Berkeley, CA; and Redmond, WA
<Ballin_05> Smerdyakov, spanish and english are offical languages of california
<Ballin_05> you must have never went outside
<Smerdyakov> Ballin_05, that has no practical effect on me.
<Ballin_05> i dunno man come ot miami and just spend a day in south beach
<Ballin_05> i would call it more Spanglish
<Smerdyakov> Miami is a tiny slice of the USA.
<Ballin_05> its in the top 10 biggest citys
<Ballin_05> but santa babra LA san diego
<Smerdyakov> And I bet the situation is very different around, for instance, the University of Miami.
<Ballin_05> SF .....sacramento
<Smerdyakov> If there is one :)
<Ballin_05> i lived in cali for years
<Smerdyakov> You must have been in lower class circles economically
<Ballin_05> of course there is one of the most popular colleges around
<Ballin_05> Smerdyakov, its clear you dont kow ;) i lived in sotuh beach
<Ballin_05> south*
<Smerdyakov> You're right. I have no idea what that is.
<Ballin_05> i was in a upper middle class
<Ballin_05> alot of street signs all through florida is in spanish
<Ballin_05> enmglish is everywhere too
<Smerdyakov> Everyone I've lived has been based around the presence of a serious research university or serious multi-national megacorporation.
<Ballin_05> but i would say most of people down here have a good firm grip of spanish
<Smerdyakov> In those settings, there is _no_ concept of "everyone knows Spanish."
<Ballin_05> Smerdyakov, we come from two different worlds ;)
<Ballin_05> i have lived in numerous countires also maybe i reconoize i more
<Ballin_05> and Puerto Rico spanish is mostly spoken there also
<Ballin_05> spanish is super easy anyways can be learned in a few months ....... forgoet all that highschool bullshit
<Smerdyakov> That may be, but your assertion is still clearly wrong.
<Smerdyakov> It's fair to say that you need to know English to get on in 99% of the USA, but not fair to say that about Spanish.
<Ballin_05> i dont care ..........i am speaking of where i live and anyone where i have lived will agree spanish is widely spoken
<Ballin_05> spanish was an exxageration
<Ballin_05> but in many areas it helps
<Smerdyakov> Well, look, most of the cities you named have Spanish names.
<Smerdyakov> Not exactly a random sampling
<dark_light> Ballin_05, well, for me it's easy to understand, but i still can't speak or write in spanish
<Ballin_05> Smerdyakov, whattt?
<Ballin_05> the SPanish Conuered / DISCOVERED lol USA
<Smerdyakov> Santa Barbara, Los Angeles, and San Diego are Spanish names.
<Ballin_05> spanish cities EVERywhere
<Smerdyakov> No.
<Ballin_05> was this not aspanish colony
<Ballin_05> yes
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<Ballin_05> omg dude ..........england came over when the job was done
<Smerdyakov> Many Spanish names in states like California, Texas, and Florida, but not so much elsewhere.
<Ballin_05> and re named a bunch of cities
<Smerdyakov> It doesn't matter if the cities are _re_named. I'm talking about their names today.
<Ballin_05> many PA cities had spanish names
<Smerdyakov> The fact that they were renamed shows that Spanish influence had become negligible there.
<Ballin_05> they were re named by englkand took over
<Ballin_05> england
<love-pingoo> How to get values defined in a .mly visible in the generated .mli ?
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<love-pingoo> I used to do dirty hacks for that, but I'm sure there is a clean solution.
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<Ballin_05> Smerdyakov, western usa and south western and south east all have a very hgih spanish influence
<Smerdyakov> Ballin_05, sure, but that's not even half of the USA's population.
<Ballin_05> only part that really has not colonial feel ........england feel is the northeast
<Ballin_05> Nevada - New mexico - California - Colorado - Texas - Oklahoma - missisippi - arizona flrodia GA
<Ballin_05> all have spanish names
<Ballin_05> plus about another 20 i didnt mention
<Smerdyakov> Members of the computer technology jetset happen to live most often in areas where Spanish is a second-class language. That's just how it is.
<Ballin_05> all im saying is the spanish doscered and conquered the US and most states have a strong influence except the northeast
<Ballin_05> and i dont mean mexican .... i mean spanish
<Smerdyakov> I was only talking about present-day names, not historical influences.
<Smerdyakov> I argue that the fact that a city kept its Spanish name indicates that Spanish is more important there than average.
<dark_light> Smerdyakov, well, i give up to try objects
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<Smerdyakov> dark_light, that's wonderful to hear. :)
<dark_light> Smerdyakov, you suggest i store the informations of the connection in a record? storing in a record is painful because of the method to access the values, like mycon.IRC.ip
<Ballin_05> Smerdyakov, english is most widely spoken i agree but i agree in western and south wesnter and south east USA spanish will and could be a daily event
<Smerdyakov> dark_light, you can open IRC, or you can switch to SML.
<Smerdyakov> Ballin_05, only if you want it to be. It's very easy to get by in almost any part of the USA without understanding any Spanish.
<dark_light> Smerdyakov, why SML handles better this?
<dark_light> and, i might don't use a record. (but maybe i will end up doing open IRC, what is ugly)
<Ballin_05> Smerdyakov, not going to argue anymore of course you could find an english speaker but in many places it would make it easier to understand and speak spanish
<Smerdyakov> dark_light, anonymous records. Instead of (mycon.IRC.ip), you use (#ip mycon).
<Ballin_05> what are you anti spanish or something lol
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<Smerdyakov> Ballin_05, I don't want you to scare off non-Americans who are thinking of visiting but don't understand Spanish
<Ballin_05> by any means heavens no
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<Ballin_05> but it will help yuou in some regualt everyday situations
<Ballin_05> stores etc
<dark_light> Smerdyakov, hmm
<Ballin_05> plus by talking in spanglish you cna shoten your sentence s down quite a bit
<Smerdyakov> If you live around a major research university, then if you find a store like that, the owner would probably like to know, to fire the person who has trouble with English.
<Ballin_05> voy al store
<Ballin_05> to go to the store
<dark_light> Ballin_05, eheheh :)
<Ballin_05> most p[eople do not live arouns major univercity and please come to the univ. of miami its very huge
<dark_light> Ballin_05, here some of my professors speaks "portuñol"
<Ballin_05> english and spanish are acceptable languages ot be spoken
<Smerdyakov> Ballin_05, I'm not talking about size; I'm talking about prestige.
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<Ballin_05> spanish is widely speokn where i live sorry i ahvenbt lived in a PA or w/e
<Ballin_05> and spanish and english are liek sisster languages both share so much ....
<Smerdyakov> P.S., your online English is horrible. ;)
<Ballin_05> Smerdyakov, small keyboard ;)
<Ballin_05> i like full size keyboards
<Ballin_05> << needs to finish his application
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<ktne> hello
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<Ballin_05> hi
<ktne> hi Ballin_05
<Ballin_05> :D
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<jprieur> hi
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<ita> hello *
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