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<alexyk> how do you reraise exception form handler with the same arguments as original?
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<det> This is really weird.
<det> caml_callback(callback, string);
<det> gives me an error: error: called object ‘caml_callback’ is not a function
<det> but
<det> caml_callback(callback, string, string);
<det> is fine
<det> meh, I think I figured it out
<det> I think "CAMLlocal1 (callback)" preproccessor magic creates a value "caml_callback"
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<hcarty> alexyk: # try failwith "foo" with Failure s as ex -> print_endline s; raise ex;;
<hcarty> alexyk: prints "foo" then raises Failure "foo"
<alexyk> hcarty: thx!
<hcarty> alexyk: Not a problem. In general, if you match a pattern, you can add "as foo" to bind the value to "foo" in the appropriate scope
<hcarty> It can be very useful at times
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<aconbere> I'm brand new to ocaml and trying to understand the use of *| and +|
<aconbere> sum (a +| cen) tail
<aconbere> for example
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<thelema> aconbere_: look at what modules are opened, or if there's a [let (+|) x y = ...] function defined.
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<Camarade_Tux> thelema, I actually had a nice browser : myie/maxthon, the rendering engine was IE (though there was mozilla activex) but it had tabs, mouse gestures, plugins, closed tab buffer, zoom, settings for everthing in the browser, and so on while firefox was not even 1 and had fast no plugins available
<Camarade_Tux> but if you think the available browsers suck, welcome to the club and I hope you'll give me some feedback ;)
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<Camarade_Tux> how can I define a new type with something from C ?
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<Camarade_Tux> no, nothing special was needed apparently
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<noon> print_endline "hello, world";;
<Camarade_Tux> print_endline "noon, the bot is not currently online";;
<Camarade_Tux> =)
<noon> oh, is there really such a bot here??
<olegfink> xavierbot's its name
<Camarade_Tux> there is one but it's not always online not to flood the channel
<Camarade_Tux> if you just want to test ocaml and have java, you can try http://ocamljava.x9c.fr/toplevel/toplevel.html =)
<noon> well, I have a stupid question: how can I load a .ml file in the current working directory from ocaml toplevel? open File;; does not seem to work...
<olegfink> #use "file.ml";;
<noon> great! thank you!
<Smerdyakov> noon, it's worth realizing that [open] never makes new code available; it just gives you shorter names for things that were already there.
<noon> oh I see...
<noon> still, I don't understand why I can use String.length but not Mymodule.Myfun even though it is in the current working directory and I added -I .
<Camarade_Tux> noon, did you #use "mymodule.ml" ?
<noon> [#use] imports the names into the toplevel without need of the Mymodule prefix or [open]
<noon> do you mean that String has a particular status compared to user-defined modules?
<Camarade_Tux> noon, no, String comes from string.cma, it had already been compiled
<noon> oh I understand - compilation is needed in that case.
<noon> thank you.
<Camarade_Tux> it's not *needed* but if you just use, you'll have to call using 'myfun', not 'Mymodule.myfun'
<Camarade_Tux> btw, your function name can't begin with a capital letter so it's myfun, not Myfun
<noon> I see, I see
<noon> so #use is basically a #include for toplevel
<noon> as if I had written the file's contents by hand?
<Camarade_Tux> noon, exactly
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<noon> I cannot really rely on comparison of functions:
<noon> <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call!
<noon> <DRM> What use is a phone call? if you are unable to speak?
<noon> (as seen on /.)
<noon> oops
<noon> # let a=fusion and b=fusion in a == b;;
<noon> - : bool = true
<noon> # let a=(<) and b=(<) in a == b;;
<noon> - : bool = false
<Camarade_Tux> you can't compare functions
<noon> (where fusion is a function name)
<Camarade_Tux> it's allowed for cases as in your first example, but that's it
<Camarade_Tux> actually it should maybe fail
<noon> well, I'm using ==, so I don't expect the structural comparison of course
<Camarade_Tux> ok, I was about to ask you if you were using == on purpose ;)
<noon> but it means that (<) is a particular function
<noon> # let less = (<) in let a=less and b=less in a == b;;
<noon> - : bool = true
<noon> the implementation does not hide here :)
<noon> (the implementation of ocaml)
<noon> I believe it means that (<) is represented nowhere in memory
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<noon> # List.concat == List.flatten;;
<noon> - : bool = true
<Camarade_Tux> the unbearable part in programming : two lines which look exactly the same and of course only one working ='(
<olegfink> Camarade_Tux: well, with unicode there are much more possibilities
<Camarade_Tux> actually I just tried with diff and they're the same ;)
<olegfink> eh, ocaml doesn't like unicode :-(
<olegfink> # let a=5 in let �[4m�=4 in a;;
<olegfink> Error: Illegal character (\176)
<Camarade_Tux> that's sad we can't have variables named snowman ='(
<Camarade_Tux> (I mean the unicode snowman ;) )
<olegfink> wow, the new ghci's thing for input editing (whatever it's called) thinks that it's a good idea to beep at unicode input (it probably thinks everything above 0x80 is a metacharacter)
<Camarade_Tux> so even iso8859-1(5) won't work ?
<olegfink> yep.
<olegfink> just tried with some basic compose accents
<olegfink> I remember jeehnooh's readline used to do it back in early 2000s or so
<olegfink> hm, I think /etc/inputrc is configured correctly
* Camarade_Tux get the shotgun and kills ghci
<olegfink> ah, this nice piece of holy shit probably has its own config...
<flux> well, atleast it _does_ have a line editor.. ;-)
<Camarade_Tux> I was about to ask if somebody had tried the bsd licensed readline equivalent ;p
<olegfink> Camarade_Tux: I just use a decent terminal...
<olegfink> who needs that 70s-style crap if there is an editing terminal?
<olegfink> Camarade_Tux: editline? that's what ghci now uses...
<olegfink> Prelude> let a=4 in let а=5 in a
<olegfink> 4
<olegfink> well, works in 'the decent terminal;
<olegfink> s/;/'/
<Camarade_Tux> olegfink, yeah, libedit/editline ;p
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<Camarade_Tux> crap
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<Camarade_Tux> champagne for everyone ! \o/
<nicko2> Camarade_Tux i wanna start a technology company, lets do it
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<Smerdyakov> nicko2, how is that at all appropriate to bring up in this channel?
<Camarade_Tux> I think nicko2 was mostly looking for free champagne ;)
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