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<Camarade_Tux>
if anyone has batteries on windows, could he get in touch with me? (no matter if it's with cygwin)
* Yoric[DT]
would be interested to hear about Batteries on Windows.
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<Camarade_Tux>
you probably shouldn't be too eager to ;p
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<Yoric[DT]>
Camarade_Tux: :)
* thelema_
is working on aaa batteries, which should fit in windows easier
<bluestorm>
aaa ?
* Yoric[DT]
needs to go.
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<thelema_>
Yes, like the little batteries in remote controls.
<thelema_>
no camlp4, no seprate builds for threads / nothreads, much fewer dependencies (maybe none, I've not decided)
<Camarade_Tux>
thelema_: hahaha, good name ;p
<Camarade_Tux>
as long as it can sexp and has the input functions, I'll be happy :)
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<thelema_>
Camarade_Tux: nope, sexp is the first thing I stripped.
<Camarade_Tux>
bah ='(
<bluestorm>
thelema_: maybe you should have made your work more public on the Batteries mailing list
<thelema_>
sexp is just a pain to install.
<thelema_>
I just had the idea a few days ago, and threw together a branch.
<bluestorm>
ok
<bluestorm>
I strongly encourage you to post about your findings on the ML
<thelema_>
I'll post today details.
<thelema_>
my findings? the only things I've found are that pre-processing the source is a b***h
<thelema_>
so I gave up on that and will find out how good git's merging capabilities are.
<Camarade_Tux>
I guess I can ditch sexp for now, I'll just use marshall
<Camarade_Tux>
-l
<thelema_>
Marshall isn't bad.
<Camarade_Tux>
I just wanted something human-readable but if it's for private development, I don't need it
<thelema_>
bluestorm: do you know what's up wih src/main/threads/run.ml? It's comment says "Load a number of .cmo/.cma/.cmxs."
<bluestorm>
I don't
<thelema_>
ok, thanks. too bad I missed yoric
<bluestorm>
I don't know about the thread/nothreads separation
<thelema_>
that I can explain - there's separate ocaml runtimes if you use threads vs. not using threads.
<thelema_>
once you go threads, everything has to be compiled with threads.
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<bluestorm>
gildor: ping
<bluestorm>
is darcs available on forge.ocamlcore ?
<bluestorm>
(I'd like to create a new project and have my source versionned under darcs; is the recommended process to create a project, just publish the source archive for now, and then ask for a darcs repository ?)
<thelema_>
bluestorm: why darcs?
<bluestorm>
I use darcs for personal projects because I'm familiar with it and simple to use
<bluestorm>
besides, this project was thought for integration with Ocsigen, and they use darcs, so I thought that was a reasonable choice
<bluestorm>
(I have also considered hosting my project directly in the ocsigen repository, but as it's actually not dependent on ocsigen, I'd prefer ocamlcore hosting for now)
<thelema_>
ok.
<thelema_>
just wondering why the choice - most others seem happy with git or hg
<bluestorm>
darcs is really dead simple to use, wich cannot be said of git
<bluestorm>
I don't know hg, wich is probably a bit simpler
<bluestorm>
(I don't say git complexity is unmanageable, but still darcs is simpler)
<thelema_>
every tool is simple to use once you know how to use it.
<Camarade_Tux>
git is easy with regard to everything, including screwing up something :D
<bluestorm>
well there also is a somewhat objective measure of tool complexity
<bluestorm>
eg. git has branches, darcs doesn't
<bluestorm>
on that point git is more complex
<thelema_>
darcs doesn't branch?
<bluestorm>
well, you just copy the repository in another place
<bluestorm>
and continue hacking happily
<thelema_>
interesting.
<bluestorm>
I'm not sure wich approach is the best, but I generally don't use branches for my personal one-man projects anyway
<bluestorm>
darcs's is sure simpler
<bluestorm>
(again darcs doesn't have "rebasing")
<thelema_>
and you don't ever need to use any of git's history-rewriting functions
<bluestorm>
well, I don't rewrite history
<thelema_>
then the complexity of git rebase doesn't matter
<bluestorm>
I'm under the impression you need to know how rebase works to use git comfortably
* thelema_
is under the opposite impression
<bluestorm>
:p
<bluestorm>
anyway I think i'll probably switch to git/hg on the long run
<bluestorm>
darcs has kind of lost the popularity war
<bluestorm>
but still darcs is simple and suit my needs, so I use it when I can
<bluestorm>
(a friend of mine is still using *rcs* to manage his personal files)
<thelema_>
it works if you're managing a single file.
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<gildor>
bluestorm: yes darcs is available, it is not just as easy to use as svn
<gildor>
bluestorm: but I have helped people from GForge/FusioForge to integrate it, so that we can have darcs integration in the next version of the forge
<sgnb>
bluestorm: are you aware of pgocaml? (that's what we usually use in Ocsigen)
<sgnb>
(of course, I don't say that better things cannot be done)
<gildor>
bluestorm: but this is only for far future -- for now just do as sgnb explain, tell in the creation message that you need a darcs repo
<bluestorm>
ok, that's fine
<bluestorm>
sgnb: my project build's over Ocsigen
<bluestorm>
errr, PG'OCaml
<bluestorm>
and it was developped during an internship at PPS ;)
<sgnb>
bluestorm: you were the one in Pierre and Jérôme's office?
<bluestorm>
yes
<sgnb>
I see... I am also at PPS... and I don't even know your real name...
<bluestorm>
well it's difficult to meet everyone in a two months delay
<sgnb>
(especially when I am away for one month)
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<bluestorm>
"ERREUR: valeur trop longue pour le type character varying(255)" :p
<bluestorm>
sgnb: project submitted
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<thelema_>
Yoric[DT]: What is batteries/src/main/threads/run.ml needed for?
<Yoric[DT]>
The dynamically-linked version of Batteries.
<Yoric[DT]>
It's the runner.
<Yoric[DT]>
This gets compiled to a batteries-threads/run.byte and batteries-threads/run.native, one of which is called by the binary produced by ocamlbuild.
<Yoric[DT]>
You can see the effect when compiling [ocamlbuild foo.dynbyte] or [ocamlbuild foo.dynnative] .
<thelema_>
needed to run batteries dlls
<Yoric[DT]>
Yep.
<thelema_>
ok.
<thelema_>
dropped in AAA
<Yoric[DT]>
ok
<thelema_>
announcement sent to batteries list.
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<orbitz>
Hello
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