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<surikator> hi guys... does anyone know of any examples of cryptokit in action? (http://forge.ocamlcore.org/projects/cryptokit/)
<surikator> i'm interested in encrypting/decrypting using the RSA module...
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<surikator> thanks for any help
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<NaCl> lulz batrope
<thelema> not so much lulz here - I wrote that code.
<thelema> and am debugging it now
<NaCl> heh, sorry
<NaCl> make a g/n/troff module and call it Batman. :P
<thelema> yup, that is brought to mind a lot.
* NaCl is silly
<NaCl> is something 8 bits that shouldn't be 8 bits?
<NaCl> because that's what 250ish reminds me of
<thelema> no, it's just an order of operations problem... the current position is incremented and then not used, and then incremented again
<thelema> ropes are trees of substrings - the leaf size is 256
<NaCl> ah, supposed to be 8 bits, then. :P
<thelema> yes
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* NaCl really should try to get his ocaml packages into openSUSE
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<thelema> NaCl: what packages?
<NaCl> uh
<NaCl> a lot of them
<NaCl> like 20 or so
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<NaCl> lot of it is dependent on modifying the base ocaml package
<NaCl> suse only has packages for lablgtk and unison
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* NaCl made a new lablgtk package
<NaCl> thelema: a large fraction of the packages come from modified fedora spec files
<thelema> have you tried packaging oasis?
<NaCl> already done
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<thelema> hmm, latin1 covers all ascii characters 0-255, right?
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<det> Isnt ascii only 0-127 ?
<thelema> ok, possible misuse of ascii
<det> I think latin1 is what you are thinking of when you say ascii 0-255
<thelema> then my question is self-referential
<thelema> and vacuously true
<det> Yes :)
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* NaCl wonders if GODI could use a GUI
<adrien> search, dependency chain (what keeps on selecting this lablgl?), saving the list of currently installed packages
<adrien> no matter the form, I'll take whichever UI provides that
<thelema> godiptitude
<NaCl> heh
<adrien> godyypkg =P
<NaCl> the question thus becomes...
<NaCl> do I try messing with godi, or do I submit my packages to suse
<thelema> fair question. I'm curious about godi/oasis goals
<adrien> try suse
<NaCl> adrien: can you read spec files?
<NaCl> I've tried to keep it clean
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<thelema> NaCl: "unresolvable"?
<adrien> NaCl: can try (I'm at work but between C++/Qt and even the most horrible spec file, I think I prefer the spec file ;p )
<NaCl> thelema: It's unresolvable because I figured out what stupidity caused one of the deps to fail building, and the publisher can be slow
<NaCl> thelema: I'll point you to it again when it actually finishes
<thelema> NaCl: no ocaml-batteries package?
<NaCl> haven't made it yet
<thelema> should be much easier than oasis
<NaCl> I already have most, if not all of the deps, it will not take long at all
<thelema> ocaml, findlib, camomile, maybe ounit for testing
<NaCl> got them alll
<thelema> yup, that's where I found no batteries
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<NaCl> I'll do it later today
* NaCl doesn't feel like gaming all day today
<NaCl> what's the ocaml documentation licensed as?
<thelema> good question, I'm not sure.
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<adrien> same as .mli files I guess
<adrien> (maybe debian lists it)
<NaCl> true
<NaCl> they are the copyright police, after all
<thelema> as the documentation is generated from the LGPL source files, I'd have to guess LGPL
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<thelema> this is for the "enhanced ocaml documentation"
<adrien> there's a restriction on translation/derivative work however
<thelema> ah, but there is the little license on the documentation with 4 *'s, which makes it not free
<thelema> feh.
* NaCl doesn't like licensing for this reason
<thelema> yay
<NaCl> that build may become invalid in a short time
<adrien> well, in the end they only want to ensure the quality of the derivative work, it'd probably be better to say you can't keep the same name ("Objective^WOCaml documentation") unless you get an approval
<thelema> I'm sure they're good intentioned, but it does cause unintended consequences
<adrien> yes, definitely
<NaCl> doesn't the plain old GFDL make that distinction?
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* adrien only remembers gfsl isn't free
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<adrien> gfdl*
<NaCl> is "make world" for architectures that don't support the native compiler and "make world.opt" for those that do make sense to you folks?
<NaCl> adrien: bleh, uh, I'll get that spec file once I know that it works
<thelema> NaCl: more or less, yes
<adrien> is opensuse ported to archs that don't support the native compiler?
<adrien> "Your paste has triggered our automatic SPAM detection filter." :P
<adrien> (This happens when links are detected in a paste. )
<adrien> ah, S/390, ok
<NaCl> I can explain almost everything in tthere
<adrien> BuildRequires: fdupes?
<adrien> and broken on ppc64?
<NaCl> adrien: fdupes searches for identical files and hardlinks them instead of having duplicate files
<adrien> ok
* adrien has never really liked having that, sometimes he makes backup copies
<adrien> I can't understand line 69 and 70
<adrien> so, you got the internal dependency generator thing sorted out?
<NaCl> kind of
<NaCl> adrien: those lines make sure that the ocaml dep resolver works correctly within ocaml itself
<NaCl> wait, *is* ocaml broken on ppc64?
<adrien> "%package emacs" sounds weird "caml-mode" maybe?
<adrien> ExcludeArch: ppc64
<NaCl> I don't have a ppc64 machine
<adrien> qemu? :-)
<NaCl> it was like that in the original spec file
<adrien> hmmm, ok, I expected it to work but I haven't checked
<adrien> and I haven't really read after line 250, /me is actually at work
<NaCl> eh, only %build and some of %install are worth it
<adrien> at home ;-)
<adrien> (when I am at home)
<NaCl> hm. I don't think renaming the ocaml-emacs package will work all that well. some naming convention garbage
<NaCl> I can make an alias to caml-mode
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<NaCl> the little description box for the change is too small for me to describe everything. xD
<NaCl> maybe that's a hint
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<_habnabit> Is thie an appropriate place to discuss godi-rocketboost? It's failing to compile out-of-the-box on OS X with architecture errors.
<NaCl> couldn't hurt, I guess. I don't use godi, though
<_habnabit> well, that's basically the extent of the issue that I've divined so far. digging through bootstrap.log right now.
<hcarty> _habnabit: The GODI mailing list may have something in its archive (if it has one?)
<hcarty> _habnabit: Each new OSX and GODI release seems to bring up trouble.
<_habnabit> this isn't on the new OS X, though.
<_habnabit> actually, let's try it on the new OS X.
* NaCl was about to ask what OS X on what architecture
<_habnabit> 10.6, x64.
<NaCl> ah, you aren't one of those people (me) who's running Mac OS 10.4 on a PPC machine. :P
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<_habnabit> yeeeesh. no.
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<thelema> RS.permute ?p:!perm
* thelema is amused by the sigils
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