gildor changed the topic of #ocaml to: Discussions about the OCaml programming language | http://caml.inria.fr/ | OCaml 3.12.1 http://bit.ly/nNVIVH
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<adrien> C++/g++ are making me think that ocaml's error message are perfect
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<sgnb> +1
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<adrien> well, at least ocaml doesn't throw some kind of syntax error when you're actually missing a declaration! (typed the name of another variable)
<flux> on the other hand, c(++) compilers are able to spit out more than one error at a time :)
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<adrien> but several are usually related
<adrien> I agree that's nice but maybe not always doable for ocaml
<adrien> maybe it could do it independantly for different functions (but something more precise would be tough)
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<menace> is there besides the xemacs or the cli-client any other interactive interpreter of ocaml? i don't use emacs and the cli-client is somewhat uncomfortable :(
<flux> enhtop and lwt's enhanced toplevel come to mind
<flux> (disclaimer: I haven't tried these)
<rwmjones> menace: not exactly sure what you mean, but how about 'rlwrap ocaml'
<adrien> rlwrap and lwt's toplevel will provide the usual editing functionnalities and history
<olasd> lwt's toplevel works quite fine in my experience
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<menace> thx
<flux> what does lwt's toplevel bring into the game, btw?
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<olasd> context-sensitive tab-completion, history
<olasd> colors
<olasd> even though it may or may not be a feature ;)
<adrien> I need to try it again: when I first tried it (quite a long time ago), it didn't seem to work well
<adrien> might be pebkac too
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<flux> does it work under emacs in a useful way?-)
<flux> context-sensitive tab completion seems useful
<flux> although emacs' dynamic completion comes close
<olasd> flux: well, under emacs i only tested it in the context of tuareg eval region
<olasd> I'm not sure it will be that helpful
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<NaCl> adrien: now... to add ocamlfind
<adrien> bit by bit =)
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<NaCl> ocaml-3.12.1-52.1.x86_64.rpm
<NaCl> 52 recompiles of this thing
<adrien> it's ok, you still haven't beaten my kernels: Linux yoda 3.0.0-rc7+ #79 SMP Fri Jul 22 07:27:20 CEST
<adrien> (on a much longer timer period however)
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<whallz> hi
<whallz> a quick question
<whallz> i'm just starting
<whallz> how can i return to the last command written in the cli?
<whallz> the toplevel sys
<whallz> up arrow does not work
<whallz> is there a way to do so?
<dsheets> rlwrap ocaml
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<whallz> dsheets: thanks
<dsheets> np
<whallz> i'm reading "Think OCaml, How to think like a computer scientist"
<whallz> is there a better book?
<dsheets> url?
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<whallz> i come from a more web-based background
<whallz> php, javascript
<whallz> great, i'll check it out, thanks
<dsheets> i think the biggest philosophical change from those language to ocaml is the understanding of state and side-effects
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<dsheets> if you can change your perspective to think in terms of data structural transformations (functions) instead of state transformations (side-effects), you'll be 80% of the way there
<whallz> cool, thank you dsheets
<whallz> see ya
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