gildor changed the topic of #ocaml to: Discussions about the OCaml programming language | http://caml.inria.fr/ | OCaml 3.12.1 http://bit.ly/nNVIVH
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<wmeyer> thelema: $ odb.ml core
<wmeyer> Installing to OCaml base: /home/danmey/ocamlbrew/ocaml-4.00.0
<wmeyer> % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
<wmeyer> Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
<wmeyer> 100 397k 100 397k 0 0 202k 0 0:00:01 0:00:01 --:--:-- 399k
<wmeyer> % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
<wmeyer> Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
<wmeyer> 10553 315 10553 33244 0 0 23029 0 --:--:-- 0:00:01 --:--:-- 31.7M
<wmeyer> Exception: Failure "non-absolute filename not allowed".
<wmeyer> Package core d/l to /home/danmey/ocamlbrew/ocaml-4.00.0/build/install-core/core-108.00.02
<wmeyer> First attempt to download the package failed with the following error:
<wmeyer> ==> The format of the downloaded archive is not handled: text/html; charset=utf-8
<wmeyer> Trying with backup location
<wmeyer>
<wmeyer> sorry for flood
<thelema> hmm...
<wmeyer> utop-full package also failed ...
<wmeyer> Installing utop-full
<wmeyer> Exception: Failure "Can only uninstall ocamlfind libraries".
<wmeyer>
<wmeyer> but batteries went through
<wmeyer> oh btw i did ./odb.ml --force utop-full
<wmeyer> to reinstall
<wmeyer> the first thing might be a server problem
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<wmeyer> the second no idea
<thelema> trying to install core...
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<thelema> somehow an empty package id is being generated
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<thelema> wmeyer: oddly enough, this seems to be a problem with the res package, which core needs, but there's also a res package in the odb packages file in the distro
<thelema> commenting that line out allows core to install
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<wmeyer> thelema: yes, it's running now, thanks - but what is the problem?
<wmeyer> woohoo: Successfully installed core
<wmeyer>
<wmeyer> but i am bit worried it's a bit fragile
<wmeyer> even though I don;t need core really - just have few dependencies
<wmeyer> what's wrong with utop-full?
<wmeyer> Installing utop-full
<wmeyer> Exception: Failure "Can only uninstall ocamlfind libraries".
<wmeyer>
<wmeyer> $ ./odb.ml --force utop-full
<thelema> because utop-full is not an ocamlfind library
<thelema> odb has no idea how to uninstall it.
<thelema> try ./odb.ml --force utop
<wmeyer> OK, that makes sense
<wmeyer> so why is it called utop-*?
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<wmeyer> if i want to install utop, then perhaps i want first to try utop-full if that fails, i doubtly think i can install utop
<wmeyer> ah i see what you are saying
<thelema> I could make the failure a warning, but most likely the install would fail anyway
<wmeyer> sorry, its late :)
<thelema> because it needs to know the name of the ocamlfind package to uninstall
<thelema> and it can't get that anywhere else except the command-line
<wmeyer> what could be done, is to separate install and uninstall
<wmeyer> packages
<thelema> as far as odb is concerned, utop and utop-full are unrelated packages
<wmeyer> but that's going to be messy
<wmeyer> hmm you could have virtual packages
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<wmeyer> utop-full will then define a virtual packages that works pretty much like an empty package with dependencies
<wmeyer> and then uninstall would trigger un-install on the packages belonging to the virtual package
<thelema> wmeyer: except odb.ml keeps no state on installed packages, and I don't think it should.
<thelema> findlib keeps state on installed packages.
<wmeyer> it has 'packages' and odb server doesn't have?
<thelema> odb server's packages are different from findlib packages
<thelema> odb server's packages are named arbitrarily
<wmeyer> but then you can perform un-install of odb server package (ocaml setup.ml -uninstall)
<wmeyer> i can see your point
<wmeyer> however
<wmeyer> but it's nice to see odb.ml downloading first everything :-) thanks
<wmeyer> i am going to bed now, cu
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<thelema> good night
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<adrien> morning
<adrien> anyone remember what was the solution to the disparition of "-mno-cygwin"?
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<adrien> thelema: hi, when you have one minute, could you look again at the intro of http://notk.org/~adrien/doc.html ? is it better?
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<askdash> hello, I have a quick question about alias patterns.. does (hd::tl) as hdtl create a fresh copy of the list?
<ousado> askdash: no
<askdash> thanks ousado
<ousado> askdash: they are immutable
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<thelema> adrien: "creates a set of open-source libraries and tools for windows" it creates tools for windows? I don't think "creates tools" is the right idea; maybe creates packages?
<thelema> or installs tools
<adrien> well, it creates .exe files too
<adrien> cross-compilation terminology is always funny
<thelema> "allows the compilation of ... for windows inside a linux/posix environment"
<adrien> good idea
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<asmanur_> how does one customize the way oasis invokes ocamldoc (i would like to add the option -keep-code for instance) ?
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<f[x]> I guess via myocamlbuild
<f[x]> for now
<f[x]> there was a feature request for ocamldoc flags
<f[x]> iirc
<asmanur_> hm ok i'll look
<asmanur_> thanks
<adrien_oww> possibly through ocamlfind's config too (not sure)
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<hcarty> thelema: I thought there was an official OCaml 4.x-ready ocamlnet release, but there is not. I'll likely wait until something official comes out before trying to get it ready for odb.
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<hcarty> Apparently I was wrong. ocamlnet 3.6 has been released and does build under 4.00.0
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<hcarty> Does anyone here have a copy of the zip .tar.gz from oasis-db?
<hcarty> Preferably the latest version. It's not accessible from oasis-db's site.
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<hcarty> thelema: I have a patch for camlzip 1.0.4 which converts it to oasis if you are interested.
<hcarty> thelema: http://vpaste.net/YYw72
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<K_F> I have some variables that are set compile time based on information in the Makefile. Currently I'm doing this using a brute sed for __VALUE__ , are there any "cleaner" way to do this?
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<Drakken_> Does findlib leave some kind of record when it installs a package?
<adrien> stat the META file
<adrien> or try 'ls -lh'
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