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<freyr69> How to suppress 4.08 deprecated alerts with dune?
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<octachron> freyr69, `flags (... -w "-3") if you need to stay compatible with earlier version of Ocaml `-alert "-deprecated"` otherwise
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<xvilka> or just switch to *-compat library where is appropriate
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<freyr69> Thanks
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<dmbaturin> Is there a way to inject a custom key comparison function into a hashtbl at runtime? The hash is a part of a recursive type, so I can't use a functor.
<dmbaturin> The original code relies on a fork of the hashtbl module for that.
<zozozo> dmbaturin: provide the hashtbl functor with a comparison function that calls a funciton in a ref, then update the ref ?
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<ggole> Are you trying to do something like type value = Int of int | Table of ValueTbl.t where ValueTbl is a table keyed by type value?
<dmbaturin> ggole: Yes.
<dmbaturin> zozozo: The problem is that I can't supply the type to the functor, since it's mutually recursive with the hash, like ggole says.
<octachron> It is one of the use case for recursive modules.
<ggole> Yeah, this is possible, but ugly
<dmbaturin> ggole: Can you think of a better solution, or just go with mutually recursive modules?
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<Anarchos> How to marshal the current opened module ?
<ggole> I would just use recursive modules. Note that recursive modules have some pretty tight restrictions, so I would make a separate module just for Value and then open/include that as necessary
<octachron> (with 4.08 the restriction on recursive modules should be properly explained by the error message)
<dmbaturin> ggole: Thanks!
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<ggole> Might not be that efficient... it could be a good idea to allocate a table id and write a hash function that uses that rather than rely on Hashtbl.hash.
<dmbaturin> ggole: My first goal is to resolve outstanding legacy code issues and get that thing into opam.
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<dmbaturin> octachron: What's the correct syntax for recursive signatures for the .mli?
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<dmbaturin> Drup: FIY: I've just rid lua-ml from its fork of a 2004 hashtbl.ml
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<Netsu> Is it possible to access record's scope like module's? Like `let _ : int * int = let r = { x = 4; y = 2 } in r.(x, y)`
<Netsu> without boring (r.x, r.y)
<dmbaturin> Why is it boring? :)
<Netsu> yeah, I know, there's nice `ppx_fields_conv`. But without arrows applicative instance there's no way to share same record argument to all the field's getters.
<Netsu> dmbaturin: boilerplate for sure
<Netsu> it's like write full module path name for each the function
<dmbaturin> It's a great idea, actually.
<dmbaturin> As of records, I would consider need to frequently extract fields like that a code smell.
<dmbaturin> If you want to match on a record, you can just match on a record.
<Netsu> yeah, OCaml already have nice scope language for modules. It would be nice to have such ability to avoid boilerplate everywhere. Maybe nix/dhall languages would be also nice source of ideas of less verbal scope languages
<Netsu> dmbaturin: `let f { abcde_1; abcde_2 } = { abcde_1; abcde_2; abcde_new = None }` is more verbal than `let f r = { r.abcde_1; r.abcde_2; abcde_new = None }`
<Netsu> and surely than `let f r = r.{ abcde_1; abcde_2; abcde_new = None }`.
<Netsu> ...ideally it should be `let f = _.{ abcde_1; abcde_2; abcde_new = None }`.
<Netsu> Also what is current implicit state in OCaml?
<Netsu> I know about https://bitbucket.org/camlspotter/ppx_implicits/src/default/ but looks like it isn't compatible with dune yet
<Netsu> What about modular implicits in compiler support, is it kinda ready for usage?
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<dmbaturin> Compatible with dune in what way?
<dmbaturin> There's no need for special support from dune's side, it should be just (preprocess (ppx ppx_implicits))
<dmbaturin> * pps ppx_implicits
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<Netsu> dmbaturin: unfortunately, it doesn't work nor with `(pps` not with `(staged_pps`. AFAIK, it rely on type information. And dune require from ppx that it should be able to glued together with other ppx in single preprocess executable. In which way (by which library) -- I'm not sure yet.
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