00:18 <alyssa> Lyude: panwrap

00:38 <Lyude> alyssa: alright

00:38 <Lyude> hm

00:39 <alyssa> Well, older versions of panwrap (pre-mesa-ification) I guess

00:39 <Lyude> alyssa: so, we /could/ benefit from being able to work from multiple kernel versions, and i'm thinking

00:40 <Lyude> i'm wondering if that might 'just work' if we used arm's official headers for whatever version we want to compile against

00:40 <Lyude> i guess it depends if the structs are the only thing that changed or not

03:36 <Lyude> alyssa: ...do you mind if I add some more error handling to the fb code?

03:36 <alyssa> Lyude: Probably a good idea; why would I mind? :P

03:37 <Lyude> just wondering

03:37 <alyssa> ("Since you're fickle with strong opinions and frankly it's unpredictable when you'll irrationally put your foot down on a technical issue, so it's best to ask ahead of time" "...Touche, mon amie. Touche")

03:52 <Lyude> alyssa: btw; what chromebook is it that you have?

03:53 <alyssa> Samsung Chromebook Plus ("kevin")

03:54 <alyssa> It's a really nice machine, but it's pricy (..in comparison to other Chromebooks, anyway)

03:54 <alyssa> There's another RK3399 chromebook that's mildly cheaper, but I can't speak to it

03:54 <Lyude> alright-i'm just wondering for the sake of kernels

03:54 <Lyude> oh wow

03:54 <Lyude> it actually is called kevin

03:55 <Lyude> i thought that was a joke

03:55 <Lyude> anyway-it looks like this thing can run a mainline kernel

03:55 <Lyude> https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/how-tos-and-troubleshooting/mainline-kernel-on-kevin-chromebook-plus

03:56 <alyssa> Sure, but that doesn't mean it'll work well

03:57 <alyssa> I've asked extensively about this in #linux-rockchip, answer has been "support is improving but it's not quite There Yet"

03:58 <alyssa> And it's not particularly convenient to switch kernels on here. If I were doing kernel dev, I'd stomach the inconvenience (in the same way I stomach the inconvenience of using llvmpipe for stuff while working on userspace). But I'm not and I don't want to burden myself unnecessarily.

03:58 <alyssa> I already hold myself to enough arbitrary standards, I don't need to add "upstream-only" to the list ;P

04:11 <urjaman> well, i would say we make it run with the newer headers and see about integrating it after that :P

04:12 <urjaman> (and i dont think you really need mainline alyssa ...)

05:48 <Lyude> yeah that as well; you might be able to just get the newest mali driver to compile against your kernel

08:13 <sphalerite> alyssa: the gru-bob which I have works nicely as well, it doesn't have such a fancy monitor though

08:16 <mmind00> sphalerite: that shouldn't matter much ... both displays are connected via eDP, so it's really only the resolution that is different and won't affect general functionality ... guessing by alyssa 's comment on #linux-rockchip, sound might interesting to know about ... somehow I tend to ignore sound way to often

08:46 <sphalerit> mmind00: yep, just saying because she said she can't speak to it

08:46 <sphalerit> mmind00: sound works with pulseaudio, although it's a bit quirky

08:48 <mmind00> sphalerite: "can't speak to it"? I tend to get regular display output on all 3 gru devices (kevin, bob and since last week even the fancy dual-dsi on scarlet)

08:49 <mmind00> sphalerite: but very cool to hear that sound is working

08:53 <sphalerite> mmind00: 04:54 <@alyssa> There's another RK3399 chromebook that's mildly cheaper, but I can't speak to it

08:54 <sphalerite> mmind00: https://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv8/rockchip/asus-chromebook-flip-c101pa sonud behaves as described on the wiki tab here for me

08:54 <sphalerite> althouhg I'm on nixos not arch

08:56 <mmind00> sphalerite: I guess specific distributions don't matter that much these days :-) .. aka I'm doing Debian as nfsroot and from an sd-card on my Gru ChromeOS-devices

08:56 <sphalerite> right

14:22 <chewitt> today's motivational image for the panfrost team ;) https://imgur.com/a/0uoqCRV

14:24 <HdkR> :)

16:44 <hanetzer> chewitt: what proggie is that?

16:44 <chewitt> Kodi

16:44 <hanetzer> ah. that's what used to be xbmc or whatever right?

16:44 <chewitt> Yup

16:46 <chewitt> Kodi is the sole purpose of the embedded distro that i'm involved in

16:47 <chewitt> our codebase is also forked to provide the Linux base for the official Plex "embedded" distro

16:47 <chewitt> also for Lakka which is the embedded "libretro" distro

16:48 <chewitt> so there's a large queue of people keen to see lima/panfrost running :)

17:15 <Lyude> chewitt: we're getting there :), I've started working on getting panfrost to work with the latest arm kernel driver with that vim2 you guys sent me

17:16 <chewitt> https://github.com/LibreELEC/mali-midgard/tree/TX011-SW-99002-r27p0-01rel0

17:17 <chewitt> ^ I'll see if I can port previous fix-ups to the r27p0 code later

17:17 <Lyude> cool

17:19 <chewitt> doesn't look like much changed, just some ifdef changes for 4.18 kernels

17:21 <chewitt> so the idea is to re-use the ARM driver instead of writing an all-new panfrost driver?

17:23 <chewitt> i.e. add a new platform to the driver?

18:33 <Lyude> chewitt: I don't know if that's the final idea;

18:34 <Lyude> but I think it's a good idea to start getting this upstream

18:34 <Lyude> or rather-I think supporting the latest uapi is a good idea for that

18:35 <Lyude> it also doesn't look it's going to take much work to get it working with the latest uapi

18:38 <alyssa> chewitt: is this a competition now? :V

18:39 <chewitt> nah, we're just glad to see progress all around :)

18:40 <Lyude> chewitt: having that midgard hardware definitely helps! :)

18:43 <alyssa> chewitt: \o/

18:45 <alyssa> It regressed at some point but I can't bisect that far back

18:55 <alyssa> oh maybe it's

18:57 <alyssa> grmp

19:00 <alyssa> got it

19:00 <ente> what was it?

19:02 <alyssa> https://rosenzweig.io/2018-11-12-110114_2400x1600_scrot.png

19:02 <alyssa> ente: some dumb stuff... bug where screen resolution is capped at 2048x1280 (TODO: investigate) and Kodi was specifying viewports of 2400x1600 etc

19:04 <alyssa> https://rosenzweig.io/2018-11-12-110400_2400x1600_scrot.png

19:04 <alyssa> I'll take what I can get :p

19:04 <alyssa> chewitt: ^^

19:05 <chewitt> that's more than last time .. progress!

19:18 <Lyude> alyssa: is this running with panfrost as the renderer?

19:42 <alyssa> chewitt: :D

19:42 <alyssa> Lyude: ya

19:44 <alyssa> I'm wondering why none of the text renders

19:45 <Lyude> alyssa: nice!

19:49 <alyssa> thanks!

20:36 <hanetzer> hawt