01:15 <aw-> tankf33der Regenaxer the problem was length indeed! thanks! code works now

03:07 <tankf33der> aw-: ok

08:08 <Regenaxer> Hi all

08:09 <razzy12> hi all :]

08:09 <Regenaxer> Hi razzy!

08:27 <rob_w> hi Regenaxer is surely a stupid question but i am starting at 0 here again , how can produce a simple echo text in my log file

08:30 <beneroth> (out "logfile" (prinl "hello world"))

08:31 <beneroth> razzy12, join us on https://meeting.itship.ch/PilCon

08:31 <beneroth> rob_w, you too obviously :)

08:37 <aw-> beneroth: i'm trying to join but it seems... crashed? or really really slow**

08:39 <aw-> never mind.. im here i think

08:39 <beneroth> oh okay

08:40 <beneroth> great

08:40 <aw-> i can't hear anythnig though*

08:40 <beneroth> weird.. browser permissions?

08:41 <beneroth> or you using the app?

08:41 <razzy12> beneroth busy at open office :]

08:41 <beneroth> np

08:41 <beneroth> you can hear us?

08:42 <razzy12> no

08:43 <beneroth> razzy12, you're using the app or the browser?

08:43 <razzy12> browser

08:44 <beneroth> 5 people here can hear each other

08:44 <beneroth> so this is weird and needs to be fixed

08:49 <beneroth> https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/5230

08:49 <beneroth> razzy12, tried to reload (F5) ?

08:55 <razzy12> i mean, i cannot, because i am at open ofice

08:55 <razzy12> and busy with other people sometimes

08:56 <razzy12> i would otherwise love to particiapte

08:59 <beneroth> ah, okay, I thought you have audio problems, that you are unable to hear what we speak, like aw-

08:59 <beneroth> so you don't have a mic, and you also don't have headphones?

09:01 <beneroth> aw-, apparently reloading the page might have helped.

09:02 <beneroth> aw-, I'm sorry, there isn't really an debug tooling on server side, or even much of monitoring

09:02 <beneroth> there is a monitoring api but I haven't worked with it yet, I haven't any tooling for it yet

09:02 <Nistur> mornin' all

09:02 <beneroth> hey Nistur

09:02 <beneroth> try to join our jitsi meeting if you like: https://meeting.itship.ch/PilCon

09:05 <Nistur> I'll try, but I'm pretty sure it won't work unless I'm on a computer in my attic, which I'm not (I'm on 'holiday' this week)

09:06 <Nistur> no, it doesn't seem to work :(

09:06 <Nistur> and I can't go into the attic, as that makes a lot of noise, and MiniNisturette is sleeping upstairs

09:10 <beneroth> what did you try?

09:10 <beneroth> mobile might be a possibility

09:11 <beneroth> today it is more about trying out if it actually works, and Regenaxer talks a bit about pil21

09:12 <Nistur> I tried my tablet, but I'll quickly try my phone too

09:15 <Nistur> I don't know how jitsi works

09:15 <Nistur> but it's me

09:30 <Nistur> the mute button, it wasn't clear whether I was muted or not :p

09:37 <razzy12> i like online meetings. i have headphones now

09:41 <Regenaxer> :)

09:45 <Nistur> in other news, as I haven't been able to go out and work on things really, I have been poking at the pictures of the Penti build. I've just dumped them on keybase, rather than on one of my websites... but I remembered that keybase can host static sites, so I found a generator specifically for photos, unfortunately not written in Picolisp :P (maybe I'll put this onto the end of my project todo list...)

09:45 <Nistur> I need to do some tweaking of the theme, and I'll probably do a little photo manipulation to make it is easier to make the text clearer (blur and darken the backround just slightly?)

09:46 <Nistur> but: https://nistur.keybase.pub/Projects/Penti/index.html

09:58 <razzy12> how good jitsi is?

10:17 <beneroth> razzy12, well on which aspects?

10:18 <beneroth> it hasn't any known security vulnerabilities allowing to hack someone else in the same conference through a chat message as Zoom does

10:18 <beneroth> its FOSS

10:18 <beneroth> but its java :P

10:25 <razzy12> i mean if it is deploy-able in 100+ people company

10:26 <razzy12> better than microsoft teams

11:44 <tankf33der> Regenaxer: any conceptual comments on pdf? ive added chain to pdf

11:49 <Regenaxer> I think this is wonderful

11:49 <Regenaxer> and fun to read

11:49 <Regenaxer> Did you modify it? Same link?

11:52 <tankf33der> nope, i will post to ml then. lobsters-reddit

11:52 <tankf33der> thanks

11:52 <Regenaxer> ok

11:52 <Regenaxer> Good thing :)

12:01 <beneroth> Good thing! :-)

12:02 <Regenaxer> indeed, and cute pictures

12:41 <beneroth> tankf33der, awesome pictures :D

12:41 <beneroth> perfect

12:45 <tankf33der> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23427828

12:45 <tankf33der> https://lobste.rs/s/eiifql/cells_picolisp_tutorial

12:45 <tankf33der> https://www.reddit.com/r/lisp/comments/gx3u3n/cells_in_picolisp_tutorial_slides/

12:45 <tankf33der> done.

12:47 <Regenaxer> 👍

13:34 <beneroth> thanks :)

16:08 <miskatonic> I guess that no one is here as all the multimedia-freaks participate in the pilcon

16:27 <Regenaxer> No more :) PilCon was 10 h ago

19:10 <miskatonic> the multimedia freaks are probably still busy with Pilcon

21:05 <beneroth> miskatonic, what are you talking about??

21:06 <miskatonic> I am talking about pilcon, which caused the channel to be silent for many hours

21:10 <beneroth> the channel is often silent for many hours without any special reason for it

21:11 <beneroth> the most regular active guys here 3 people, and some more who are at least weekly active

21:12 <beneroth> but has the benefit of more familiarity and more opportunity for longer discussions :)

21:12 <beneroth> I would not like to lurk in a channel like #python or so...

21:14 <beneroth> so to bring some live in here..m miskatonic, what are you busy with? :-)

21:14 <miskatonic> busy with almost falling asleep ...

23:22 <aw-> ahaha

23:32 <beneroth> hey aw- :)

23:33 <aw-> hi

23:34 <aw-> just waking up here

23:34 <aw-> how was PilCon?

23:41 <beneroth> more or less what you saw when you joined, Regenaxer explained a bit about pil21 source

23:41 <aw-> i couldn't hear anything :(

23:41 <beneroth> sorry that audio didn't work for you

23:41 <aw-> next time i'll try with my tablet

23:41 <beneroth> had you tried to reload?

23:42 <beneroth> as you saw I found some other bug reports/github issue about the topic, most likely some browser special case

23:42 <aw-> yes but loading the site was soooo slow, and I had other things to do :P

23:42 <beneroth> yeah I see

23:42 <beneroth> lets try again

23:42 <aw-> yeah next time from my tablet it'll probably be fine

23:44 <beneroth> I might try out BigBlueButton, similar app but meant for schools, so it has more features for presentation and teaching