<beneroth>
Regenaxer, yeah. iPhone-botnets were a thing some years ago even, time now for some android botnets...
<Regenaxer>
But I do have bluetooth enabled on Android for the warn app and podcast listening
<beneroth>
yeah
<beneroth>
exactly
<beneroth>
as much as I understand it, the bluetooth low-energy stack is affected too, so in my understanding the android covid-tracing mechanism makes every phone vulnerable... I'm not 100% sure, haven't found any expert words on that, but as far as I understand it...
<Regenaxer>
seems so
<beneroth>
illness, pollution, wildfires and floods.. and hackers.. all those things all over the place
<beneroth>
we live in a cyberpunk novel
<Regenaxer>
The Covid app works, by daughter received a warning a few days ago
<beneroth>
oh good!
<Regenaxer>
tested negative though
<beneroth>
you are asked to make a test when you receive a warning?
<Regenaxer>
But in her orchestra there are several cases
<Regenaxer>
yes
<beneroth>
ah orchestra.. makes sense, lot of airflow
<Regenaxer>
yeah
<Regenaxer>
They are tested before every gathering
<beneroth>
here in Switzerland there is all the time the problem that people with positive tests don't get a code to enter into the app (to trigger the warnings to others)
<Regenaxer>
takes too long?
<Regenaxer>
to pass the info
<beneroth>
for some dumb reason it is another department/team who gives people the covid app codes than the testers and also even as the tracers
<beneroth>
yeah. days.
<Regenaxer>
I see
<beneroth>
and for some dumb reasons our politicians and responsible officials are too dumb to fix this for many weeks now
<beneroth>
somehow they don't understand that timing and tracing is the best and most economic tool against this pandemic
<Regenaxer>
T
<beneroth>
so currently everything goes bad here. in new infections in relation to population we just surpassed USA...
<beneroth>
it varies wildly between different regions/cantons
<Regenaxer>
oh
<Regenaxer>
Its going up everywhere though
<beneroth>
national test positive rate is 13-15%, but some regions have 30-40% (= really really bad)
<beneroth>
I believe the "its going up everywhere in Europe" is partly true, and partly media-made.
<Regenaxer>
true, depends on the interpretation of the numbers
<beneroth>
aye. and its easier for officials to say they have it bad now when others say that too, even when it was already bad in their region weeks ago
<beneroth>
I see a surprising wide variety. the number go up everywhere, but some regions are quite more ahead than others. without clear correlation to measurements in most part, it seems to me.
<Regenaxer>
The distribution will become more homogeneous over time
<beneroth>
T
<Regenaxer>
But the infections are mainly by clusters
<beneroth>
we didn't learn. we bought the first lockdown (well we never had a curfew) for a very heavy price. but somehow people and politicians though that this was enough to stop the fire. without installing any fire watch, or protection measurements so it cannot happen again
<Regenaxer>
(I'm a Drosten-Listener ;)
<beneroth>
T
<beneroth>
it seems that the infection happens a lot via superspreaders. meaning many, maybe most people don't infect others, and a few infect many others
<beneroth>
for social and biological reasons
<Regenaxer>
exactly
<beneroth>
and the two ways that covid can lead to a bad illness is over multiple weeks doing lung and organ damage, or rather quickly when the immune system goes crazy
<beneroth>
the immune system overreaction has probably a genetic aspect to it (some people are very prone to it, some not much)
<beneroth>
but no exact mechanisms/genes/biological reasons known yet. just some observations I think I saw in the science stuff.
<beneroth>
so this variety in outcome + variety in individual infection rate = high probability for sudden clusters, I conclude.
<beneroth>
lets see
<Regenaxer>
I thought the clusters are usually social events
<beneroth>
yes
<beneroth>
or nursery homes
<Regenaxer>
with high aerosol production
<Regenaxer>
T
<beneroth>
when the infection place is known, it is usually within the family/home
<beneroth>
so prolonged contact, probably mainly via aerosols
<beneroth>
and a good amount of randomness
<beneroth>
Japan is doing pretty well, especially in view of them having more elderly than even Europe
<beneroth>
Regenaxer, you think this is primarily the asia culture difference? or better organisation / taking the virus more seriously because they had SARS-1 ?
<Regenaxer>
Masako said today it will worsen there too
<beneroth>
yeah I guess so
<Regenaxer>
I think it is discipline
<Regenaxer>
a consensus society
<beneroth>
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<Regenaxer>
Got a segfault in misc/stress.l
<Regenaxer>
after many runs though
<Regenaxer>
tuff
<tankf33der>
then i will run it in a loop
<Regenaxer>
Good
<Regenaxer>
I have no idea what exactly goes wrong
<Regenaxer>
or where to search
<Regenaxer>
Either DB-I/O or IPC
<Regenaxer>
I ran stress.l 26 times until I got SIG-11