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<Regenaxer> Hmm, I think there is a bug in PLIO (rd)
<Regenaxer> I get wrong data from Java in PilBox, and I did not change anything in the Java part
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<beneroth> Regenaxer, java runtime did also not change? :P
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<Regenaxer> All the same
<Regenaxer> Android 10, Target SDK 29
<Regenaxer> Anyway the plio part on the Java side is independent of anything
<tankf33der> i will check my plio tests and will add to bundle then
<Regenaxer> ok
<Regenaxer> But you did not observe any errors
<tankf33der> and big rational numbers test from yesterday rosettacode task.
<Regenaxer> What I see here is that PilBox Lisp code receives (2 .)
<Regenaxer> but the Java side never sends a circular list
<Regenaxer> (always arrays in Java)
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<tankf33der> lets see what i found.
<Regenaxer> good
<Regenaxer> Ha!!! Found it
<Regenaxer> Can reproduce it as
<Regenaxer> : (out "a" (pr (2 0))) (in "a" (rd))
<Regenaxer> -> (2 .)
<Regenaxer> Seems only if the second element is 0
<Regenaxer> for 1 rd is ok
<Regenaxer> Difficult, needs some redesign
<tankf33der> http://ix.io/2ALW
<tankf33der> i have these, will add for future tests, now woeks.
<tankf33der> i have these, will add for future tests, now works.
<Regenaxer> ok
<Regenaxer> Cant find a good solution atm
<Regenaxer> OK, fixed it
<Regenaxer> I hope I did not break anything in (rd) now
<Regenaxer> basic tests work
<tankf33der> next task will be:
<Regenaxer> Perhaps a little similar to the task "Image Noise"?
<Regenaxer> Animated image though
<Regenaxer> and it was Ersatz-only
<tankf33der> yea, maybe, will take a look what can i do
<Regenaxer> The plio bug was quite serious. Any list containing '0' was truncated :(
<Regenaxer> Serious especially in DB reads
<tankf33der> i thinking to create slides for fixedpoint math, somebody could present it on pilCon someday.
<Regenaxer> Great! That would be very helpful
<Regenaxer> Many are confused with fixpoint stuff
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<beneroth> (well, good that not all the android phones have bluetooth enabled currently, for covid tracing apps..)
<Regenaxer> Yeah, I heard the above too
<beneroth> [OT] Mac-Users: never plugin a untrusted USB into your computer https://blog.t8012.dev/plug-n-pwn/
<beneroth> Regenaxer, yeah. iPhone-botnets were a thing some years ago even, time now for some android botnets...
<Regenaxer> But I do have bluetooth enabled on Android for the warn app and podcast listening
<beneroth> yeah
<beneroth> exactly
<beneroth> as much as I understand it, the bluetooth low-energy stack is affected too, so in my understanding the android covid-tracing mechanism makes every phone vulnerable... I'm not 100% sure, haven't found any expert words on that, but as far as I understand it...
<Regenaxer> seems so
<beneroth> illness, pollution, wildfires and floods.. and hackers.. all those things all over the place
<beneroth> we live in a cyberpunk novel
<Regenaxer> The Covid app works, by daughter received a warning a few days ago
<beneroth> oh good!
<Regenaxer> tested negative though
<beneroth> you are asked to make a test when you receive a warning?
<Regenaxer> But in her orchestra there are several cases
<Regenaxer> yes
<beneroth> ah orchestra.. makes sense, lot of airflow
<Regenaxer> yeah
<Regenaxer> They are tested before every gathering
<beneroth> here in Switzerland there is all the time the problem that people with positive tests don't get a code to enter into the app (to trigger the warnings to others)
<Regenaxer> takes too long?
<Regenaxer> to pass the info
<beneroth> for some dumb reason it is another department/team who gives people the covid app codes than the testers and also even as the tracers
<beneroth> yeah. days.
<Regenaxer> I see
<beneroth> and for some dumb reasons our politicians and responsible officials are too dumb to fix this for many weeks now
<beneroth> somehow they don't understand that timing and tracing is the best and most economic tool against this pandemic
<Regenaxer> T
<beneroth> so currently everything goes bad here. in new infections in relation to population we just surpassed USA...
<beneroth> it varies wildly between different regions/cantons
<Regenaxer> oh
<Regenaxer> Its going up everywhere though
<beneroth> national test positive rate is 13-15%, but some regions have 30-40% (= really really bad)
<beneroth> I believe the "its going up everywhere in Europe" is partly true, and partly media-made.
<Regenaxer> true, depends on the interpretation of the numbers
<beneroth> aye. and its easier for officials to say they have it bad now when others say that too, even when it was already bad in their region weeks ago
<beneroth> I see a surprising wide variety. the number go up everywhere, but some regions are quite more ahead than others. without clear correlation to measurements in most part, it seems to me.
<Regenaxer> The distribution will become more homogeneous over time
<beneroth> T
<Regenaxer> But the infections are mainly by clusters
<beneroth> we didn't learn. we bought the first lockdown (well we never had a curfew) for a very heavy price. but somehow people and politicians though that this was enough to stop the fire. without installing any fire watch, or protection measurements so it cannot happen again
<Regenaxer> (I'm a Drosten-Listener ;)
<beneroth> T
<beneroth> it seems that the infection happens a lot via superspreaders. meaning many, maybe most people don't infect others, and a few infect many others
<beneroth> for social and biological reasons
<Regenaxer> exactly
<beneroth> and the two ways that covid can lead to a bad illness is over multiple weeks doing lung and organ damage, or rather quickly when the immune system goes crazy
<beneroth> the immune system overreaction has probably a genetic aspect to it (some people are very prone to it, some not much)
<beneroth> but no exact mechanisms/genes/biological reasons known yet. just some observations I think I saw in the science stuff.
<beneroth> so this variety in outcome + variety in individual infection rate = high probability for sudden clusters, I conclude.
<beneroth> lets see
<Regenaxer> I thought the clusters are usually social events
<beneroth> yes
<beneroth> or nursery homes
<Regenaxer> with high aerosol production
<Regenaxer> T
<beneroth> when the infection place is known, it is usually within the family/home
<beneroth> so prolonged contact, probably mainly via aerosols
<beneroth> and a good amount of randomness
<beneroth> Japan is doing pretty well, especially in view of them having more elderly than even Europe
<beneroth> Regenaxer, you think this is primarily the asia culture difference? or better organisation / taking the virus more seriously because they had SARS-1 ?
<Regenaxer> Masako said today it will worsen there too
<beneroth> yeah I guess so
<Regenaxer> I think it is discipline
<Regenaxer> a consensus society
<beneroth> T
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<Regenaxer> Got a segfault in misc/stress.l
<Regenaxer> after many runs though
<Regenaxer> tuff
<tankf33der> then i will run it in a loop
<Regenaxer> Good
<Regenaxer> I have no idea what exactly goes wrong
<Regenaxer> or where to search
<Regenaxer> Either DB-I/O or IPC
<Regenaxer> I ran stress.l 26 times until I got SIG-11
<Regenaxer> Thus, no usable reproducibility
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<tankf33der> http://ix.io/2AOV
<tankf33der> i can do it this way
<Regenaxer> yes, simple :)
<tankf33der> this is count, right? :/
<Regenaxer> "this"?
<Regenaxer> Simplicity? :)
<tankf33der> is this solution ok ?
<Regenaxer> yes, I think so
<tankf33der> ok
<tankf33der> thanks.
<Regenaxer> Looks good :)
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