15:24 <beneroth> Regenaxer, just fyi, I see the ml discussion as same as you (re Tomas)

15:24 <Regenaxer> Good, thanks! :)

15:25 <Regenaxer> I don't understand what his problem is

15:25 <beneroth> focused solutions (as you're are) are focused, ofc they are not optimal for cases they were not meant for

15:25 <Regenaxer> T

15:26 <beneroth> I guess he understands your examples "that is the way to do HTML/PDF in picolisp" but then that was not the topic

15:26 <Regenaxer> yes, he is in fact a good Pil programmer

15:26 <Regenaxer> (or was some years ago)

15:26 <beneroth> T

15:27 <beneroth> your strategy to programming is (as I understand it): solve the requirements. no extra bells and whistles, KISS and tiny and clean.

15:28 <beneroth> generally people just prefer "give me library/example to do X" without having to think too hard / specify too detailed what X entails

15:28 <beneroth> which of course is also a way.. but that is the way which leads to bloat, mistakes and especially security mistakes

15:28 <Regenaxer> exactly

15:30 <Regenaxer> I'm walking in the rain, but could not resist now writing another short mail to the list ;)

15:39 <beneroth> :)

15:39 <beneroth> I consider FEXPR to be handy for DSL's

15:41 <beneroth> especially for the exact things Tomas went on about... printing vs. building a data structure. the DSL code can be the same for both scenarios, just throw them into different FEXPR which use different function bindings when evaluating the DSL prog

15:42 <beneroth> e.g. I use input parsing FEXPR's which re-bind (line) or (eol) and customize them to whatever makes sense for the input (e.g. XML which have quite different record line/structure than a CSV)

15:44 <beneroth> so I get a small DSL to handle the input of the file, and it looks same as standard picolisp reading text files with (in File ... (line) (skip) ..) but I in my use case I use a FEXPR in place of (in)

15:47 <beneroth> FEXPR's are interpreters, it's simply that

16:05 <Regenaxer> ret

16:05 <Regenaxer> Terrible

16:05 <Regenaxer> Rain and storm, I'm completely wet

16:05 <Regenaxer> yes, DSL's

16:06 <Regenaxer> haha, yes :) To ML would be ideal

16:56 <beneroth> we have it windy, but no rain yet

17:04 <Regenaxer> I see, but very windy I presume. Stormy here

18:04 <beneroth> yeah very windy