#ponylang on 2017-08-03 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:02 <doublec> I noticed that too. Lots of "foo(x)?.bar(y)?" in my code.

00:03 <doublec> Which is probably a win since I didn't recall they were partial.

00:03 <SeanTAllen> same

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01:11 <SeanTAllen> jemc: how does the makefile decide which compiler to use?

01:11 <SeanTAllen> im trying to help gordon get llvm 4 working on travis for osx

01:11 <SeanTAllen> and its finding llvm4 now

01:11 <SeanTAllen> but it wants to use clang-3.9 for some reason

01:13 <jemc> SeanTAllen: it respects `CC` and `CXX` env vars

01:13 <jemc> for example, I run `make` with either `CC=clang CXX=clang++` or `CC=gcc CXX=g++`, depending on which I want to use

01:15 <jemc> SeanTAllen: I think this is the problem: https://github.com/ponylang/ponyc/pull/2061/files#diff-354f30a63fb0907d4ad57269548329e3R197

01:15 <SeanTAllen> those arent being set that i can see

01:15 <SeanTAllen> but i also found an issue

01:15 <SeanTAllen> ah ha

01:15 <SeanTAllen> thats the other issue

01:15 <jemc> should probably be fixed to match https://github.com/ponylang/ponyc/pull/2061/files#diff-354f30a63fb0907d4ad57269548329e3R207

01:16 <SeanTAllen> i told him to change that

01:16 <SeanTAllen> not sure why it wasnt

01:16 <SeanTAllen> ok

01:16 <SeanTAllen> thans i missed that

01:16 <jemc> np

01:17 <jemc> honestly, I have no idea why those are `CC1` and `CXX1` instead of `CC` and `CXX`, but it seems to be working, so /shrug

01:18 <SeanTAllen> ok i think push should fix gordon's issue

01:18 <SeanTAllen> there was also a wtf in the Makefule

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12:47 <autodidaddict> I was just looking at the RFC for the new promise methods. You have no idea how happy this makes me. These new methods are awesome!

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15:06 <cquinn> @jemc question about pony-explicit-partial-calls.bash : should the unix version of the script work on MacOS?

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15:18 <SeanTAllen> cquinn: in theory. i was the one who was going to test. i didnt have a chance to test so it might need updates.

15:18 <cquinn> ok. I did run into a couple of incompatibilities

15:19 <cquinn> bash features that I wasn't familiar with

15:20 <SeanTAllen> perhaps you and jemc can work out fixes.

15:21 <cquinn> sure. I'll look into it again. I was going to just run it on my ubuntu vm, but getting it working for MacOS is probably more important

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15:36 <cquinn> @jemc on line 56 there is `declare -A errors`. The `-A` doesn't seem standard and is an error on MacOS bash. `-a` is supported, but that defines an integer-indexed array and then line 69 fails.

15:39 <cquinn> Ah, MacOS bash is version 3.2.57 and I think `declare -A` requires version 4+

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15:46 <cquinn> Need to install bash-4 on mac...

15:46 <jemc> eek, that sucks

15:46 <etc> Is there a way to access C enums from pony?

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15:51 <cquinn> @jemc turned out to be fairly easy. bash-4 is on homebrew, but then you have to do a few tricks to get it set as a standard shell

15:51 <cquinn> worked fine then

15:53 <cquinn> https://github.com/Toberumono/Miscellaneous/wiki/Installing-Bash-4.3-on-Mac-OSX

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16:04 <jemc> cquinn: thanks, I've updated the gist to include this tip: https://gist.github.com/jemc/95969e3e2b58ddb0dede138c737907f5#file-pony-explicit-partial-calls-bash-L42-L44

16:04 <jemc> hopefully that's enough to get MacOS devs going

16:04 <jemc> thanks for looking into it!

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19:22 <etc> Hi! Is there a good way of dealing with a C ffi that exposes a union-of-structs type?

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19:47 <jemc> I think union-of-structs FFI situations can be hard to handle in pony

19:48 <jemc> some initial discussion happened here: https://github.com/ponylang/rfcs/issues/77

19:50 <etc> Ok no problem! I'm indeed playing with the SDL library which was mentioned in the ticket

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