arigato changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end ) | use cffi for calling C | mac OS and Fedora are not Windows
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<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/4323 [mattip: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
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<mattip> the last failing test in unicode-utf8 is test_xpickle.py, which passes a blob between python versions
<mattip> it fails to run python2.7 as a slave process using popen
<mattip> the exact failure is on line 29 in lib-python/2.7/test/test_xpickle.py where the slave process runs
<mattip> exec compile(open(mod_path).read(), modpath, 'exec') in pickletester.__dict__
<mattip> where modpath is the full path to test_xpickle.py
<mattip> no, modpath is the full path to tests.pickletester
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<mattip> so the exec compile ... is failing at a call to "import __main__" in pickletester,
<mattip> which apparently calls test_xpickle's main() ?
<mattip> "progress" - this is failing just the same way on default.
<mattip> so the only tests that are failing on unitcode-utf8 and passing on default are
<mattip> pypy.module.pypyjit.test_pypy_c.test_string
<mattip> which is kind of expected I guess
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/5917 [mattip: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/7190 [mattip: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/4326 [mattip: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-32/builds/6220 [mattip: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-32/builds/1929 [mattip: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
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<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/5917 [mattip: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-32/builds/6220 [mattip: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
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<arigato> mattip: great news
<arigato> I guess we make it a major sprint topic to review and merge the utf8 branch?
<cfbolz> yes, I agree
<arigato> also, we should start to work on the 64-bit ARM port soon... I guess it's another sprint topic too
<cfbolz> we also are going to have a number of newcomers, I think
<cfbolz> maybe 3.6 tasks would make sense for them?
<arigato> yes, that's one good option
<arigato> I was just thinking that jit backends are also somewhat self-contained
<cfbolz> that's true
<mattip> thanks
<mattip> maybe worth updating the annouce.txt, prioritizing goals
<mattip> I would like to formulate a packaging policy and discuss issue 2617
<mattip> and there is the ctypes pep3118 format string (non) support
<mattip> which is blocking getting pypy into the numpy ci matrix
<arigato> pep 3118 is "Revising the buffer protocol"?
<arigato> ah yes I see
<mattip> memoryview(ctypes.Structure) does not ceate a format string
<mattip> just 'B'
<arigato> (sorry I thought about "%s" or any of the 17 new versions of it)
<mattip> :)
<mattip> all three of those are more along the lines of "discuss, lay out a plan" than coding at this stage
<arigato> right
<cfbolz> yes, seems we need to have quite a few planning discussions
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<fijal> morning
<arigato> hi
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<mattip> here is a benchmark run of py3.5 vs unicode-utf8-py3, and pypy2 vs. unicode-utf8-py3 (second half of the gist)
<fijal> antonio blog post generated so much attention
<fijal> it's weird - the actual technical topic at hand is very unlikely to be used by many people
<cfbolz> fijal: maybe, but people like latency percentiles, and browsers do this kind of stuff too, so it must be cool
<fijal> mattip: why is html5lib so much slower?
<fijal> it really sould not be
<mattip> many things are much slower. dissapointing
<fijal> it probably warrants a look before merging
<mattip> yes definitely. There are still failing tests all over the place
<arigato> there are many runs that are a bit faster, and a few ones that are much slower
<cfbolz> :-(
<cfbolz> that's strange
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<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/4326 [mattip: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/7190 [mattip: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
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<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-32/builds/1929 [mattip: force build, unicode-utf8-py3]
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