#pypy on 2019-01-14 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2018-11-25 07:18 arigato changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end ) | use cffi for calling C | mac OS and Fedora are not Windows

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05:38 <mattip> cfbolz: I compared before and after the latest changes https://gist.github.com/mattip/b7aeb83f2fb5203c33c51715af2f5b7d

05:39 <mattip> and for good measure compared latest to pypy2

05:39 <mattip> https://gist.github.com/mattip/b7aeb83f2fb5203c33c51715af2f5b7d#file-gistfile2-txt

05:40 <mattip> chameleon is now even faster than pypy2. telco is still slower

05:40 <mattip> than pypy2

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06:57 <cfbolz> mattip: cool

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08:08 <fijal> I'm quite worried that we go till it's "not slower" and then we give up

08:08 <fijal> but well, hard to do better

08:09 <fijal> telco should not do any unicode whatsoever no?

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08:38 <mattip> it parses text->number, and writes results to a file

08:38 <mattip> well, a StringIO()

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09:16 <fijal> ok

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09:53 <cfbolz> fijal: yes, I agree, we should do a careful look at some traces too

09:53 <cfbolz> and some profiling

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09:55 <fijal> Yeah

09:55 <fijal> But not at the cost of never merging

09:58 <cfbolz> yes

09:58 <cfbolz> having four different branches is hurting the brain :-(

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12:10 <mattip> bencher4 is back. It seems the machine crashed with an oom-killer entry in syslog

12:11 <mattip> I set ulimit -v 30889564 (about 30GB of the 32 available), but I don't think that will really protect us much

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15:02 <arigato> fijal: unicode-utf8 is faster at half the benchmarks already

15:02 <arigato> so it means that if we make sure we understand and fix the worst slow-downs, then it's a net win

15:20 <fijal> right

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16:03 <cfbolz> arigato: do you have an opinion on what I wrote about unicode dict strategies yesterday?

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17:27 <abrown> cfbolz: are you on?

17:38 <cfbolz> abrown: yep

17:40 <abrown> before Christmas I had been working on a paper and had mentioned that I would post it here

17:40 <abrown> here's the link in case you are still interested: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1rCtpKz3sYhwCyYL8VYM-hy5VjX11ZVx2

17:46 <cfbolz> abrown: cool!

17:57 <mattip> arigato: on bencher4 in the buildslave chroot, I cannot run "python2.7 lib-python/2.7/test/test_xpickle.py worker"

17:58 <mattip> it chokes in the "exec(compile ,,," on line 28

17:59 <mattip> it seems to start running tests, when all it is supposed to do is import a module

18:02 <mattip> where does the "Run tests sequentially" even come from?

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18:16 <mattip> it comes from the import __main__ in pickletester.py, which decides that is the __main__ from test.py, not test/test_xpickle.py

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20:10 <kenaan> mattip default 9cbebcb6df9a /lib-python/2.7/test/pickletester.py: since this file is run with cpython in test_xpickle, use stdlib2.7.14 code here

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21:34 <zaytsev> fijal: arigato: so what's the plan for tomorrow

21:34 <zaytsev> also, could you please tell me how to find your stand :) ? one of our frontend developers wants to visit you on saturday (if i go that right)

21:35 <zaytsev> mattip: i'm looking at the builder right now

21:36 <zaytsev> mattip: the microsoft installer says i have visual studio build tools 2017 v15.5.6 and wants to update them

21:37 <zaytsev> there is nothing like 2017 by 14.1 available =( or do they have several different versioniing schemes in use at the same time

21:39 <zaytsev> mattip: my theory is that you've misdirected me. you told me that you want 2017, but actually, i guess you want 2015, because 14.1 is 2015, and 2017 is 15.x

21:40 <zaytsev> mattip: but 14.1 is also not the latest version of 2015. the latest is 14.3

21:47 <zaytsev> mattip: so please check again and tell me what is it exactly do you need: a) latest 2017 (15.x) b) latest 2015 (14.x) c) 2015 / 4.1 very specifically (in which case i guess the only way is to fetch it from chocolatey)

21:49 <zaytsev> /off for today

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