#pypy on 2020-02-05 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2019-08-29 19:33 cfbolz changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end ) | use cffi for calling C | if a pep adds a mere 25-30 [C-API] functions or so, it's a drop in the ocean (cough) - Armin

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02:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-32/builds/5696 [py3.6]

02:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-macosx-x86-64/builds/4868 [py3.6]

02:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/6767 [py3.6]

02:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/5103 [py3.6]

02:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/7988 [py3.6]

02:00 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-macosx-x86-64/builds/4868 [py3.6]

02:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-aarch64/builds/335 [py3.6]

02:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-32/builds/6955 [py3.6]

02:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-aarch64/builds/333 [py3.6]

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02:58 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/7988 [py3.6]

03:10 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-32/builds/6955 [py3.6]

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03:18 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-32/builds/5696 [py3.6]

03:18 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/6767 [py3.6]

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04:20 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-aarch64/builds/335 [py3.6]

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05:00 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-32/builds/5103 [py3.6]

06:00 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/jit-benchmark-linux-x86-64/builds/2871

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07:22 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-aarch64/builds/333 [py3.6]

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08:13 <bbot2> Success: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/jit-benchmark-linux-x86-64/builds/2871

08:13 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/jit-benchmark-linux-x86-64/builds/2872 [mattip: force build]

10:14 <cfbolz> mattip: that all sounds very good

10:14 <cfbolz> why do we want to forbid forks?

10:20 <Dejan> then forbid spoons too

10:23 <kenaan> cfbolz py3.7 e1662647d2eb /lib-python/3/hmac.py: use the Python implementation of hmac.digest for now

10:28 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/jit-benchmark-linux-x86-64/builds/2872 [mattip: force build]

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10:59 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/6768 [dejan: buld latest code, py3.7]

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11:24 <mattip> cfbolz: they don't want to allow personal "groups" on the foss heptapod instance, for fear it will get out of hand

11:24 <mattip> a fork is a repo (project) in a personal group

11:27 <bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/jit-benchmark-linux-x86-64/builds/2873 [mattip: force build, py3.6]

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11:32 <cfbolz> mattip: but forks of the pypy repo are ok?

11:34 <mattip> where would you fork them to? There will not be a possibility to create foss.heptapos.net/mattip/pypy

11:34 <mattip> since I cannot create a personal project under mattip

11:35 <cfbolz> mattip: so how will people make pull requests?

11:35 <mattip> they will be "developers" and can open branches on foss.heptapos.net/pypy/pypy

11:36 <mattip> marmoute ^^^ is this correct?

11:36 <mattip> so basically anyone with a bitbucket, github, or heptapod login can create a branch

11:37 <cfbolz> but not push to default, py3.6/7 etc?

11:37 <mattip> right, we would mark those branches as protected

11:38 <mattip> so only core members could merge or push directly to them

11:38 <cfbolz> ok

11:38 <mattip> which might encourage us to work more on feature branches than we are doing today, which would be a good thing

11:39 <mattip> but let's see if marmoute confirms my understanding of things

11:49 <bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/6768 [dejan: buld latest code, py3.7]

12:00 <marmoute> mattip: that read about right

12:01 <marmoute> People can either use normal named branch to collaborate or switch to topic-branch were things stay draft.

12:02 <marmoute> the named-branch workflow is less used/tested, so some polishing might be done. But nothing too major.

12:04 <cfbolz> marmoute: but they definitely need to push to our repo

12:05 <marmoute> Currently, yes. We focus on one workflow to keep things manageable. And especially for the foss instance, we do not allow anyone to create repos.

12:05 <cfbolz> ok. for the core devs that's obviously fine

12:08 <marmoute> the topic-branch thing is also a light way to have contributor pushing to your repository without creating immutable content

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12:32 <mattip> marmoute: I don;t know the difference. If I do "hg branch abc", that is a regular branch, right? How do I create a topic branch?

12:37 <mattip> nvrmind https://www.mercurial-scm.org/doc/evolution/tutorials/topic-tutorial.html

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12:59 <antocuni> the only problem I see with this workflow is that somehow it discourages new contributors, because they might fear their code is not good enough to be pushed to the main repo (even if it's not going to be merged)

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13:04 <marmoute> mattip: hg topic acb

13:04 <bbot2> Success: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/jit-benchmark-linux-x86-64/builds/2873 [mattip: force build, py3.6]

13:04 <marmoute> antocuni: heptapod will gain more diverse workflow with time. Also, topic changeset change be esialy removed

13:05 <antocuni> marmoute: that's good, thank you :). I think it is important to get started "somehow", then we can fine tuning our workflow once we are on track

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13:06 <marmoute> heptapod is enough work in itself that we did not want to try implement everything at the same time

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13:10 <antocuni> sure

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18:31 <mattip> according to https://numpy.org/neps/nep-0029-deprecation_policy.html#support-table, in June 2020 Numpy will drop support for Python<=3.6

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18:52 <mattip> the next release should have a 3.7 alpha/beta

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20:21 <kenaan> mattip buildbot e6539bdaaa08 /bot2/pypybuildbot/builds.py: differentiate between projects in upload

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21:43 <kenaan> rlamy StringIO-perf c83626075169 /pypy/module/_io/interp_stringio.py: Add new operation mode for W_StringIO, backed by a W_UnicodeObject, for read-only operations

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