cfbolz changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end ) | use cffi for calling C | if a pep adds a mere 25-30 [C-API] functions or so, it's a drop in the ocean (cough) - Armin
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<cfbolz> The comments on the blog once again prove why comments suck
<cfbolz> I am tempted to delete the anonymous one
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<mattip> just ignore the trolls
<mattip> the next comment is useful: it points out a bug I didn't mention
<mattip> I have a recollection of discussing attachments, but cannot find a heptapod issue about them missing
<cfbolz> Thanks
<cfbolz> mattip: I deleted it anyway, and posted a comment about it
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<cfbolz> mattip: what's the workflow for actually adding somebody after I get a '... requested access' mail?
<cfbolz> (Philipp should be added)
<arigato> I did:
<arigato> you click on the link "PyPy" in that e-mail
<arigato> if you're logged in, then that page shows pending requests
<cfbolz> Ah, cool
<cfbolz> I clicked on the user, which goes nowhere useful
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<flok> with my pypy my test performs 2750/s while the regular python performs 750/s! \o/
<Dejan> bigger = better
<flok> in this case most def
<mattip> nice
<mattip> whoohoo, our first new issue on heptapod
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<marmoute> mattip: is it any better than the one you got on bitbucket ?
<mattip> you would have to ask the reporter about their UX experience
<cfbolz> Ah, Nathaniel
<mattip> :)
<mattip> so a-priori, the issue is of high quality
<cfbolz> Heptapod is waaaaay better on the phone
<tumbleweed> hrm, I don't even see a way to request access to pypy on heptapod
<mattip> at https://foss.heptapod.net/pypy/pypy/, there should be a button on the right just under the logo
<tumbleweed> nope, don't see anything
<marmoute> cfbolz: yeah, I am super happy with that. You can actually do things on a phone without it being a massive pain.
<tumbleweed> ah, on /pypy/
<mattip> marmoute: confusion ^^^
* tumbleweed uses gitlab regularly, but I don't think I've requested access for something through the web interface before
<marmoute> mattip: open a ticket ?
<mattip> marmoute: the membership thing is confusing: there is a pypy group but then we can give permissions for pypy/pypy separately
<tumbleweed> yeah, you can grant permissions heirarchially
<tumbleweed> (well, only add, not subtract)
<mattip> it would be good if pypy/pypy had a "request permission" button too
<mattip> do we care if we expose more socket.SO* constants to pypy2.7 than CPython does?
<mattip> the current _socket/moduledef simply exposes all the constants defined in rpython's _rsocket_ffi
<mattip> and I don;t want to have to enumarate only the ones we should expose
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<cfbolz> mattip: I don't think we care
<ronan> +1
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<arigato> +1: if someone accidentally depend on them, and complains CPython doesn't have them, we can now safely answer "you shouldn't be using CPython2.7 any longer, officially"
<cfbolz> haha
<cfbolz> yes, from that POV we can now do what we want
<arigato> python 2.8! cough
<mattip> pushed a fix in c59b4ec28639
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<mattip> email notifications are working, but they are a bit noisy.
<ronan> mattip: can you merge the new docs for heptapod?
<ronan> the sprint in Minsk is on Friday
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<mattip> the webhook is not building automatically
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<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/6800 [planrich: force build, rutf8-simd]
<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-linux-x86-64/builds/6800 [planrich: force build, rutf8-simd]
<cfbolz> heh, I just re-discovered the existence of rpython.translator.backenopt.storesink
<mattip> those who forget history ...
<mattip> speaking of which, didn't we already have some PR to do simd rutf8
<cfbolz> yes, I have some vague memory that fijal played with something like that
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<YannickJadoul> It seemed it would never end, but the PyPy-supporting PR was just merged into cibuildwheel ;-)
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<mattip> YannickJadoul: whoohoo!
<YannickJadoul> mattip: Thanks for the feedback and help :)
<YannickJadoul> Now we just have to wait for a release, and suddenly people will start making PyPy wheels without realizing
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<marmoute> YannickJadoul: that seems nices
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