cfbolz changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end ) | use cffi for calling C | if a pep adds a mere 25-30 [C-API] functions or so, it's a drop in the ocean (cough) - Armin
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<mattip> I finally figured out which lib-python tests are definitely crashing in windows nightly runs
<mattip> the stdio log has "testname ..."
<mattip> followed by no result and the next line is the "__________________" of the next test
<mattip> so that is why I was messng with msvcrt.get_osfhandle, it was crashing
<mattip> here are the remaining ones (there may be more) https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3yWNdS4DYk/
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<antocuni> would be nice to do something like that on pypy's repo: https://discuss.python.org/t/cpython-codebase-plots/6267
<mattip> lines of code only roughly corresponds to value
<mattip> a better indicator of quality contributions may be lines removed
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<antocuni> sure, although I don't think it's possible to get any reasonable estimate of code quality using this kind of tools
<antocuni> but it's funny anyway
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<cfbolz> antocuni: ah, I did that for PyPy. Can upload later
<antocuni> cfbolz: cool, thank you
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<antocuni> wow, I wonder what is the big 2010 blob
<cfbolz> It must be merges, I think
<antocuni> likely
<cfbolz> And I suspect the very big ones are Unicode databases?
<antocuni> could be
<cfbolz> antocuni: file:///home/cfbolz/projects/unofficialgitpypy/stack_plot.png https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/UYKlpnHx/image.png
<cfbolz> aaaand the winner is: amaury
<antocuni> the same big 2010 blob :)
<cfbolz> it's 2011, I think
<cfbolz> but yes
<fijal> it confirms my suspicion I never wrote much code in pypy
<fijal> ;-)
<cfbolz> ah, I suspect I should exclude lib-python 😅
<cfbolz> seems amaury is responsible for a lot of the merges there
<cfbolz> no, I did
<cfbolz> so no clue
<cfbolz> indeed, he's responsible for the autogenerated unicodedb lines
<fijal> can you by hand exclude unicodedb?
<fijal> or too much effort?
<cfbolz> I can probably re-run
<cfbolz> (takes a bit though)
<cfbolz> on it
<cfbolz> with "a bit" I mean "a few hours"
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-64/builds/45 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-64/builds/124 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
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<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-64/builds/124 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
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<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-64/builds/125 [nulano: test branch, py3.7-win64-hash]
<bbot2> Failure: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-64/builds/125 [nulano: test branch, py3.7-win64-hash]
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<arigato> ^^ blog post draft
<arigato> tos9: any comments welcome from you (or others of course)
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<tos9> arigato: it's a good idea, and a good post
<tos9> not sure if you wanted comments other than that
<tos9> (I don't have any -- I read it and yeah it makes sense and I hope has a decent shot of someone stepping up)
<tos9> arigato: (there's a minor typo in s/someone that has told/someone that has said/)
<tos9> Did the non-ARM-related Big Sur issue get resolved already so that at least intel rosetta works now? I forgot to check. If not it's maybe worth mentioning that too if it's not something that anyone cares to fix unless someone steps up with funding (which obviously would be understandable)
<arigato> I think they are not resolved yet
<arigato> (thanks for the typo)
<tos9> I see relatedly that GH actions still has no timeline for M1 in CI https://github.com/actions/virtual-environments/issues/2187
<tos9> so that wouldn't help us either yet
<arigato> yes, and I think we just want a regular pypy buildbot anyway
<tos9> *nod*
<tos9> arigato: just out of curiosity is it really "many requests"?
<tos9> there was that one mailing list question I saw
<tos9> and then maybe one or two other people passing through in here
<bbot2> Exception: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-64/builds/45 [mattip: force build, py3.7]
<bbot2> Started: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-64/builds/46 [nulano: test branch, py3.7-win64-hash]
<arigato> tos9: ah, maybe I counted in my list of many requests the comments that show up at https://foss.heptapod.net/pypy/pypy/-/issues/3314
<arigato> but indeed that issue is also about Big Sur on x86-64
<arigato> I'm killing the "many"
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<bbot2> Exception: http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/pypy-c-jit-win-x86-64/builds/46 [nulano: test branch, py3.7-win64-hash]
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