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<kristianpaul>
i was wondering if there is a chinesse version for a spot messenger..
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<wpwrak>
wolfspraul: what shall be the T10 vendor ID of qi-hardware ? it's <= 8 characters and globally unique. "Qi-Hardw" ? "Qi-Hw" ? "Qi Hw" ? ... ?
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<wpwrak>
the official name is "Qi Hardware", correct ? (no dash, this capitalization, no "project: or other qualifier)
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<wolfspraul>
T10?
<wolfspraul>
in which context is this read/seen - what are other names?
<wolfspraul>
"Qi Hardware" is nice
<wolfspraul>
or just "Qi"
<wpwrak>
that's SCSI
<wolfspraul>
there's nothing close to Qi in the hw world afaik, so just Qi? or "Qi Hardware"?
<wpwrak>
i only have 8 characters for the identifier. "Qi Hardw" ?
<wolfspraul>
Qi HW? that's a little ugly
<wolfspraul>
sure
<wolfspraul>
that's good too
<wolfspraul>
space a problem?
<wpwrak>
"Qi" seems a little short for a globally unique name
<wolfspraul>
ok
<wpwrak>
lemme check if the space is okay ...
<wolfspraul>
otherwise dash or underscore, whatever is the norm in that namespace
<wpwrak>
ah yes, no spaces
<wpwrak>
- seems to be common. so, "Qi-Hardw" for the identifier, and "Qi Hardware" for the descriptive name (for documentation purposes) ?
<wolfspraul>
yes, good
<wolfspraul>
thanks for asking
<wolfspraul>
:-)
<wpwrak>
and for the intended use, "Devices presenting internal or external memories through the USB Mass Storage Class."
<wolfspraul>
sure
<wpwrak>
(i guess we'll never make any true SCSI devices :)
<wpwrak>
request submitted. thanks !
<wpwrak>
amazingly, it even seems to be gratis. the joy of having a big enough name space :)
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<rjeffries>
wpwrak interesting reading various comments re possible Nanonote successor.
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<rjeffries>
wpwrak the goal of hardware that is as close to completely open as possible is understood. (by moi)
<rjeffries>
wpwrak likewise: easy to carry in a pocket, battery operated, long-ish battery life, and (I assume) physical keyboard
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<rjeffries>
wpwrak what is upper bound on selling price for the intended target market? Would initial selling price of $200, with possible future price decrease be OK?
<wpwrak>
i think that would be a reasonable starting point
<wpwrak>
it's easy to lower the price later
<larsc>
wpwrak: what's your plan for the T10 ids?
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<wpwrak>
larsc: firmeware updates in small (MCU) embedded devices via USB mass storage
<wpwrak>
to avoid needing platform-specific drivers / tools
<larsc>
ah
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<kristianpaul>
the PIC board?
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<wpwrak>
naw, an AVR this time
<kristianpaul>
awww =)
<wpwrak>
i figured that pic-with-usb is more expensive than avr+v-usb :)
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<kristianpaul>
well..
<kristianpaul>
good to know !
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<kristianpaul>
oh god, qi planet is inposible to load..
<wolfspraul>
why?
<viric>
browser killer
<viric>
offrss handles it fine :)
<wolfspraul>
loads ok here
<kristianpaul>
too much to load..
<kristianpaul>
and i just wanted to check the links at the left
<wpwrak>
wolfspraul: btw, for your trip to the wine shop, you may also want to consider the following white wine: Norton "cosecha Tardia". (there's also a champagne variant with the same name. what i mean is the wine. not sure if the champagne is any good.) here's what the bottle looks like: http://www.vinotecaligier.com/norton-cosecha-tardia-750-cc
<wpwrak>
wolfspraul: it's a sweet wine, but not too intense. great for food with sweetish spices. plus, if you empty the bottle for dinner, it really helps your creativity the next day :)
<wpwrak>
(just today, i came up with two very clever new ideas for technical problems i had been pondering for a very long time. so yesterday's dinner worked well :)
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