<rz2k>
whitequark: nice, what will be your application of this cnc?
<whitequark>
rz2k: PCB drilling and milling
<whitequark>
and anything else I will think about :)
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<rz2k>
whitequark: will it be available for rent? :p I can help with consumables like drills/whatever
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<whitequark>
rz2k: totally
<whitequark>
by the way, I'm looking to reimplement its controller box, partly because it sucks (I need a hardware LPT port, UGH), partly as an exercise in both hw and sw
<whitequark>
(I want to write the firmware in a sane, memory-safe language, that is, Rust :p)
<whitequark>
so we could collaborate on that
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<nicksydney>
wpwrak_ / DocScrutinizer05 ... what's new ?
<nicksydney>
:)
<nicksydney>
was damn hot over here during the day
<nicksydney>
but cooler at night
<DocScrutinizer05>
funny netsplit
<DocScrutinizer05>
freenode broke into at least 3 pieces
<nicksydney>
much better than last night.....last night was so sleepy that i delete the whole thing as it was not working properly turns out i check some settings that throws error 'footprint cannot be found' duh :)
<nicksydney>
wpwrak_: ping
<nicksydney>
wpwrak_: need your expert help on kicad :)
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<nicksydney>
ok found how to set the track width for all the tracks
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* nicksydney
wonder where everybody is
<larsc>
recovering from friday night ;)
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<nicksydney>
miss those days ! :)
<wpwrak_>
nicksydney: now, add a little MCU to make then blink :)
<wpwrak_>
since you already have the FRDM-KL25Z ... :)
<wpwrak_>
nice, there's now a FRDM-KL26Z. should eliminate the firmware guesswork. silly that it's more expensive, though. i think the chips are just the same.
<wpwrak_>
ah no, they added a few more things. a light sensor and a button.
<nicksydney>
ahh 2 new item and extra $4 :)
<wpwrak_>
ah, AUD 18. I see USD 15 :)
<wpwrak_>
the '25 was USD 13. oh well.
<nicksydney>
sounds like a good idea of using the '25 for the LED wheel :)
<wpwrak_>
and the accelerometer now also has a 3-axis compass
<nicksydney>
so thinking of getting it ?
<wpwrak_>
if you don't have a '25 yet, you may want to switch to the '26. i'd think they'll replace the '25 with the '26 as soon as they can. they're almost identical but the 26 is slightly better.
<nicksydney>
ae you thinking of launching kickstarter campaign for anelok ?
<wpwrak_>
may get the '26 board on my next order. just so that i can tell people "this really works with linux and there's no way you could have an ancient firmware version" :)
<wpwrak_>
not kickstarter, but something like the neo900 campaign looks interesting
<nicksydney>
wpwrak_: hahaah.....support Freescale all the way :)
<nicksydney>
wpwrak_: when you thinking of launching the campaign ?
<nicksydney>
i was thinking ... what can we do with anelok and Android
<nicksydney>
perhaps bluetooth pairing it with Android device and for backup or something ?
* nicksydney
think tomorrow (if managed to squeeze time) will be etching time again :)
<wpwrak_>
not sure about the time yet. first i need to make another prototype with all the hardware changes piled up from board 0. and there's still some examining to do for power consumption.
<wpwrak_>
once that is done, i can either hand-make a small number of "alpha" test boards if anyone is interested in helping with developing software and such. or skip this step and make directly a small "beta" series.
<DocScrutinizer05>
nicksydney: you definitely want to rotate some LEDs 180°
<wpwrak_>
the beta series would need financing. financing also needs a "corporate" structure. to avoid tax traps i'd also need someone in a country with reasonable and predictable laws to handle the money.
<nicksydney>
wpwrak_: sign me up for "alpha" tester :)
<wpwrak_>
e.g., in argentina there are some laws that oblige companies to transfer income abroad into the country. they don't affect me now but who knows if they would if larger amounts are involved. and of course, the money would be converted at the "official rate", something like 50% below market value, then subject to a > 30% p.a. inflation/devaluation, and nearly impossible to spend on anything outside argentina. so that's basically a one-
<wpwrak_>
way street. definitely something i'd avoid.
<nicksydney>
i'm waiting for the local hackerspace to have a group buy from digikey so i can also put my order in for the '25 MCU for anelok and few components too...as shipping is really killing
<nicksydney>
DocScrutinizer05: nice....will rotate and see how it will look
<wpwrak_>
how expensive is digi-key shipping to .au ?
<nicksydney>
$34
<nicksydney>
FREE SHIPPING on Orders of $200 AUD and greater.
<nicksydney>
wpwrak_: you need to move to China or Thailand
<nicksydney>
the guy that run cnx-software.com lives in Thailand
<nicksydney>
i think China would be better for you as you will be closer to the 'electronic hub' and shipping will be cheaper once you make other products
<nicksydney>
not to mention business tax and setup is very easy in Chian
<wpwrak_>
nicksydney: ($34, free shipping) oh, and you're still complaining ...
<nicksydney>
Unemployed in Europe Hobbled by Lack of Technology Skills --> http://www.cnbc.com/id/101308843 ...anyone from Europe can attest to this news :)
<nicksydney>
wpwrak_: i always complain when i have to pay for shipping ... i'm a *STRONG* believe in free shipping .. hehehe
<wpwrak_>
here it's a flat USD 40. which is actually great. it used to be a lot more some time ago.
<DocScrutinizer05>
depends on direction of LEDs you place them
<wpwrak_>
(lack of skills) yeah right, better get some high tech savvy fieldhands from vietnam or wherever they're recruiting the $1/day workers now :-)
<wpwrak_>
the problem seems to be more that companies don't want to invest in training. so you get three tyoes: 1) those who still do and thus can operate. 2) those can get someone else do it for them (state or sometimes 1), and thus can operate. 3) those who have neither and thus only complain. since complaints of a dysfunctional company are rarely paid much attention to, one can reasonably assume that 3) is the empty set and the complaints c
<wpwrak_>
ome simply from companies of type 1) who want to become 2), or 2) who are still greedy.
<nicksydney>
wpwrak_: i find lots of people in IT whom I have met are really not interested to move forward in honing their skills...either they are complaining that it's hard to keep up and want to move to roles such as managers/team lead
<nicksydney>
i don't find any value in people having skills such as project managers or architect..they are wasting my breathing space and instead of helping they are blocking progress
<larsc>
If they had skills in those areas they probably wouldn't block your progress
<nicksydney>
larsc: that's the problem....they think they have the skills and org are only blinded by the fact that resume says they do have but in reality they don't have the proper EI (Emotional Intelligence) to run a team or project
<whitequark>
a good poject manager is a difference between a dead project and a successful one
<nicksydney>
whitequark: very true....only found 2 of those quality PM in my career...the rest are just stupid people who knows how to talk bs
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<larsc>
who manages the managers?
<nicksydney>
larsc: ha..that's even worse
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<nicksydney>
larsc: if you follow the chain of command to the Cxx level that's even worst !
<nicksydney>
"let's save $1M by moving to MySQL from DB2 but let's not spend the existing DBA for MySQL training ...let the DBA learn everything by himself" managers :)
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<wpwrak_>
exactly
<nicksydney>
you do go the whole 9 yards :)
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<nicksydney>
wpwrak_: if say for example we connect anelok via bluetooth to an Android device and we use it as backup of all data from anelok ? is that a "make sense" or "usable" use case ?
<wpwrak_>
well, anelok already has uSD and USB, so backup is not a problem
<wpwrak_>
but yes, one could add more communication options
<nicksydney>
cool....sounds good...will put something together later