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<whitequark> sigh... my printer can't print straight
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<larsc> great... just got one of those parallella boards, first thing I did was almost break off the HDMI connector
<larsc> yes
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<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Fix launching OPKs with a file containing spaces (opkrun) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/1a1f891
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: linkapp.cpp: remove dead/useless code (opkrun) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/a7f0fef
<nicksydney> wohoo! had a successfull day today programming the attiny13 board using arduino as the ISP...awesome!...feels like you are in a casino and the house let you win :)
<wpwrak> there's probably a few very broad-shouldered fellows right outside the exit, waiting for you :)
<nicksydney> hahahahaha
<nicksydney> yeah i think so :)
<wpwrak> hmm, your pcb really looks like pertinax (FR2)
<nicksydney> it is very flimsy the PCB
<wpwrak> solidity shouldn't really be an issue at that size. or do you mean it's particularly thin ?
<nicksydney> it's thin and not that sturdy
<nicksydney> i notice also the copper layer is thin...if i scrape hard with knife it can come off
<nicksydney> but the one i bought locally that is double sided that is thick and hard...can't peel the copper layer off easily with knife
<nicksydney> the double sided takes a *LOT* of force to really scrape it off
<wpwrak> well, there are different thicknesses in the market. both for pcbs and for the copper sheet. so that board is thinner than 1.6 mm ?
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<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Revert to launching in the shell for non-OPK apps (opkrun) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/55a6528
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Use 'opkrun' to execute OPK files (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/7c1af3a
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Redirect to log by redefining stdout and stderr (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/6ef3f3b
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Execute the links directly, don't use the shell (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/2ab4448
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Fix launching OPKs with a file containing spaces (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/1a1f891
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: linkapp.cpp: remove dead/useless code (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/a7f0fef
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Revert to launching in the shell for non-OPK apps (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/55a6528
<qi-bot> [commit] Paul Cercueil: Merge branch 'opkrun' (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/0fd8333
<whitequark> grmbl. the courier who should have delivered my endmills is late :(
<whitequark> but on the bright side, the company who sells them says that if the courier is late, they'll compensate the delivery cost
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<larsc> when he shows up he probably wants half of that compenstation
<whitequark> I guess the company just pays the cost themselves
<whitequark> they better do, for the amount they charge
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<whitequark> hey wpwrak
<whitequark> what did you use to make anelok and ybox case? what material? what cad/cam?
<roh> i think wood and acryllic and 'his own' ;)
<whitequark> yes, looks like the case
<whitequark> 'the case' hehe
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<wpwrak> yes, the cases are all regular acrylic, airbrush-painted in some cases.
<wpwrak> cad/cam: fped and its friends from the qi-hw cae-tools repo :)
<wpwrak> my standard interchange format is annotated gnuplot. at the end, i convert it to RML-1, which is what my mill consumes. i don't have any g-code eating devices, but it shouldn't be too hard to write a converter
<wpwrak> the critters in cae-tools do things like simple coordinate transforms, offsetting, area fills, and so on
<whitequark> annotated, sorry, what?
<whitequark> *gnuplot* ?
<whitequark> will you next release anelok firmware as base98 in EBCDIC-encoded man pages ?
<whitequark> (converter) yeah, doesn't look like there is one
<wpwrak> (annotated) i can put meta-data as "comments". though i don't really use that
<whitequark> as you could guess I'm planning to make myself an anelok sometime in the future
<whitequark> both as a useful device and something to learn on
<wpwrak> gnuplot is a nice enough format. easy to parse, easy to generate, easy to view.
<wpwrak> hehe :)
<whitequark> I'm currently looking at 2-factor auth with yubikey as a solution
<whitequark> but it only has two slots and needs USB so...
<whitequark> (technically it also has NFC, and they reassure me that their NFC can't be read in an unauthorized way, but I don't trust that crap)
<wpwrak> yeah, a bit limited. small and cheap, though. at least something:)
<whitequark> yubikey? cheap?! $40 for a 1.5x1.5cm board?!
<whitequark> apparently they use unicorn blood instead of epoxy
<whitequark> I bought the nano one
<wpwrak> but yes, there's inevitably a markup :)
<whitequark> since it's going to sit in my USB almost permanently and the regular one is too easy to break
<whitequark> btw, RML seems simple enough you could write a converter to gcode with sed
<wpwrak> probably ... or just write a proper gp2gcode
<whitequark> sure
<wpwrak> some of my tools aren't quite clean. e.g., you'll find some assumptions about the height of my mill in some generic-looking makefiles.
<wpwrak> so you have to be a bit careful if you just want to run the whole stack without checking what it actually does
<whitequark> yeah
<whitequark> anyway, I'm still waiting for my endmills :/
<nicksydney> http://blocks.wizb.it/ -- realtime bitcoin transactions on a globe.
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